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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. The ACLU
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jun 2013
"After Congress enacted the FISA Amendments Act in 2008, we worried that the NSA would use the new authority to conduct warrantless surveillance of Americans' telephone calls and emails. These documents confirm many of our worst fears. The 'targeting' procedures indicate that the NSA is engaged in broad surveillance of Americans' international communications.

...is quoting Greenwald, but he does a lot of speculating while reporting the procedures. The "international communications" are why there are safeguards. There is more to the report on the actual procedures.

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The authors write that the documents "detail the circumstances in which data collected on U.S. persons under the foreign intelligence authority must be destroyed, extensive steps analysts must take to try to check targets are outside the U.S., and reveals how U.S. call records are used to help remove U.S. citizens and residents from data collection."

"The broad scope of the court orders, and the nature of the procedures set out in the documents, appear to clash with assurances from President Obama and senior intelligence officials that the NSA could not access Americans' call or e-mail information without warrants," Greenwald and Ball write.

The procedures governing collection of information on foreign targets "cover only part of the NSA's surveillance of domestic U.S. communications," the Guardian says. It reported earlier this month that most data collection happens with approval of the FISA court under the Patriot Act.

The FISA court allows the NSA to keep data "that could potentially contain details of U.S. persons" for up to five years, and to retain and use "inadvertently acquired" domestic communications that contain "usable intelligence, information on criminal activity, threat of harm to people or property, are encrypted, or are believed to contain any information relevant to cybersecurity," the Guardian writes.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/20/nsa-surveillance-fisa-court/2442899/


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Set me straight, is the ACLU in the racist category? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1
I believe they are currently in the "ratfucker" category Dragonfli Jun 2013 #11
Well it makes sense nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #12
It's getting crowded under the "corporate apologist's" bus. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #28
it's such a stupid smear...ignorant of history nashville_brook Jun 2013 #49
The ACLU never loved him! City Lights Jun 2013 #32
clearly the ACLU is a firebagger organization noiretextatique Jun 2013 #34
I admit, I did not consider that possibility nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #35
welcome noiretextatique Jun 2013 #44
today is a good day to join the ACLU grasswire Jun 2013 #2
isn't that how you get on the watch list? reusrename Jun 2013 #30
apparently we are all already on a watch list. grasswire Jun 2013 #48
This too, is entirely legal. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #3
"The government also claims the authority to retain Americans' purely domestic communications" morningfog Jun 2013 #17
How can the FOREIGN Intelligence Surveillance Court issue legally issue domestic warrants? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #36
There were no warrants issued in these cases Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #37
"Technically" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #39
I agree Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #41
I missed the paragraph which stated "fuck President Obama... Earth_First Jun 2013 #4
The ACLU ProSense Jun 2013 #5
You finally admit they can take content? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #6
So much information is surfacing Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #8
It has ProSense Jun 2013 #10
Are you aware of the protocols that the NSA uses to distinguish between "Foreign" and "Domestic"? bvar22 Jun 2013 #18
Here: ProSense Jun 2013 #20
i have figured why the rumours started that the onion was closing Monkie Jun 2013 #24
As John Oliver says..."a coin toss plus 1%"!!! dkf Jun 2013 #27
Well, there is a caveat Coccydynia Jun 2013 #19
Stop it with the facts and stuff. Some here at DU don't like that. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #23
Oops. My bad. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #25
I think there is quite a bit of confusion about the order of things, reusrename Jun 2013 #33
You may be correct. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #43
Actually, some of the documents indicate they can also take some JDPriestly Jun 2013 #51
Oh, no, that can't be true. She's quoting Greenwald there, and Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #21
what, no "racism, bigotry, hate, agendas, envy and jealousy"? MisterP Jun 2013 #7
Well, that's ACLU for you. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #22
Thank you ACLU Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #9
K&R for the ACLU! "far weaker than we imagined they could be" n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #13
k/r marmar Jun 2013 #14
but it's leeeeeeegal!!1 frylock Jun 2013 #15
"purely domestic". that means non-foreign calls. seems excessive. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #16
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2013 #26
Somebody's lying.... kentuck Jun 2013 #29
Good question. Octafish Jun 2013 #40
Kick nt Hissyspit Jun 2013 #31
Why does the ACLU hate us for our freedoms? Rex Jun 2013 #38
+1 nashville_brook Jun 2013 #47
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #42
We can hear you now. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #45
k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #46
Kick...Interesting Info...We Need to KNOW! KoKo Jun 2013 #50
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