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intaglio

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31. Started with Kos
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:55 PM - Edit history (2)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/03/1221091/-Bolivian-Plane-Landed-Due-to-Faulty-Fuel-Gauge

who in turn took it from Atlantic Wire.http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/07/tale-re-routed-bolivian-presidents-plane-falling-apart/66838/ The Atlantic Wire uses various sources including the Guardian.

France and Spain not refusing airspace was AP via Yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-case-france-denies-blocking-bolivia-plane-090257428.html as well as the Wire

The Wire article also has a recording of the Bolivian flight's request regarding assistance

Portugal quoted as allowing overflight.

The only diversion rook place over Austria

There was no "search" just the police requesting permission to walk through.

ATC protocols from talking to an ATC at SF conventions a few years ago followed up by simple reading

The tale about Snowden only came from Bolivian sources

I note our full time "revolutionary" Manny has joined in and he will note that the French apologised for any offense given to the Bolivians, which is normal diplomatic speak for "we don't know WTF you are going on about but it won't harm us to be on your good side (plus we have an aversion to the US)"

As an addition for the rabid conspiracy theorists amongst us the French had pre-approved overflight because the flight plan had already been filed and approved. If France had refused overflight then the flight plan would have been different and probably not routed over Austria.

Edited to add that the ATC protocols have also been confirmed by my brother in law who has had a light pilots license for about 20 years.
Just think it's all messed up. Same old, same old. nt Pholus Jul 2013 #1
Wrong question. Deep13 Jul 2013 #2
And, how would this look different from a successful obfuscation? HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #3
We once took the Great Obfuscations of Old Europe tour. Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #6
LOL, I thought Great Obsfuscations was a PBS series. HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #12
Lol! N/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #21
There was something wrong with the gas gauge on a private plane treestar Jul 2013 #4
Actually, it would be a Jet-A gauge. Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #22
Look at it for what it is. 99Forever Jul 2013 #5
I don't think anything. That's what I'm asking. Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #8
To put it another way: 99Forever Jul 2013 #17
Is it OK with *you*? alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #20
Huh? 99Forever Jul 2013 #23
I'm sticking with my usual affectational befuddlement Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #24
That's how I see it. ananda Jul 2013 #10
The authoritarians have made fools of themselves alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #7
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch! Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #11
Yeeeaaaaahhhhhh! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #13
Court jesters, camp followers, and general hangers on. Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #18
Clown ass muh-fuckers alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #19
Of course Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #25
That assumptions and twittering is no way to go through life. randome Jul 2013 #9
I went to school with a guy who looked just like that . . . . Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #14
Basically, Obama kidnapped Harriet Tubman...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #15
Ha! Itchinjim Jul 2013 #27
Dammit!!! greytdemocrat Jul 2013 #28
Stay calm, Stinky. Stay frosty. We're all strung out. But Obama will know what to do. sibelian Jul 2013 #16
Essentially it is the Bolvian Pres seeking publicity intaglio Jul 2013 #26
What's the source of that list? Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #29
Started with Kos intaglio Jul 2013 #31
I'm so glad you're here. sibelian Jul 2013 #33
Someone tell Francois Hollande, tout de suite! MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #34
Hollande did not say France had refused overflight intaglio Jul 2013 #35
This is making my head hurt MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #36
Perhaps you could tell France to stop apologizing for MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #30
Couric Vs. Palin! hootinholler Jul 2013 #32
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