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Showing Original Post only (View all)How can Snowden be a traitor if the NSA program is a figment of his imagination? [View all]
Those on defense seem to simultaneously claim that we're all hysterical over something that doesn't exactly exist but then they claim Snowden damaged US national security interests. If PRISM, or whatever, is a fiction then no damage could have been done.
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How can Snowden be a traitor if the NSA program is a figment of his imagination? [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
OP
Obviously since that shoe-horns nicely with choosing to believe what Snowden says.
randome
Jul 2013
#9
If Snowden fabricated tales about a non-existent program then he broke no oath.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#13
So, suddenly, there's proof even though you've been saying there's no proof.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#25
No proof of his outrageous claims. But solid intelligence info given to the Chinese.
randome
Jul 2013
#31
So everything that supports your claim is true but anything else is not.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#39
Yeah, and it also means Snowden may have been justified in breaking his oath
freedom fighter jh
Jul 2013
#28
How is running to a third world country *supposed* to protect the Constitution?
freedom fighter jh
Jul 2013
#97
NSA is violating the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution all day every day.
freedom fighter jh
Jul 2013
#146
Padilla and Snowden are both American citizens. Padilla was denied due process and tortured
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#141
There's the Congress you have and the Congress you'd like to have. (Now why am I
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#160
Obviously he faces charges. Maybe it's not espionage according to your definition.
randome
Jul 2013
#120
Banana Republics always generate trumped up charges against enemies of the state
Katashi_itto
Jul 2013
#125
Ah, so as long as it's been "ruled" -- a la Dred Scott -- we underlings dare not question
villager
Jul 2013
#183
The Chinese leaders could actually read about the documents in the Chinese newspapers.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#194
Not when they give US classified documents to the newspapers of a foreign power.
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#197
Published where? No newspaper has this. . .nothing on the internet. Hell,
Nanjing to Seoul
Jul 2013
#46
But if it's a legal, open program that it is sanctioned by law under the Patriot Act, what's the
Nanjing to Seoul
Jul 2013
#56
When did Progressives become the party of unquestioning obedience to authority?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#15
No, the complaint against spying on Americans was given the unqualified dismissal of
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#42
No, it's because Snowden is a libertarian with controversial, contradictory and irrational ideas
baldguy
Jul 2013
#49
But exposing methods & practices, as well as active intelligence agents (as he has threatened to do)
baldguy
Jul 2013
#74
Interesting that Progressives are supposed to march in lockstep behind anyone
treestar
Jul 2013
#179
Yes, PRISM is real. However, Snowden made a few false statements and exaggerations.
Galraedia
Jul 2013
#23
"If Snowden was interested in the truth he wouldn't be making false claims and exaggerations."
baldguy
Jul 2013
#29
To hell with the President's privacy. He's just another public employee.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2013
#32
Metal detectors. Drug-sniffing dogs. Drug tests. DNA collection. Fingerprinting.
randome
Jul 2013
#87
Spell check can't help you now. You're in the dark land of bad homophones.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jul 2013
#111
Also they claim that he is a liar but the PowerPoint slide he provided proves that the
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#41
It is really simple. He STOLE information & gave it to China/Russia. How some can't grasp
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#59
Sharing a cell with Aldrich Ames or Robert Hanssen might be more appropriate. n/t
bornskeptic
Jul 2013
#166
What information did he give to Russia? I could say I am the Queen of England on the internet
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#69
Please, you know damn full well he did. HE ADMITS IT AND IS GOING TO GO THROUGH HIS FILES
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#122
I don't know any such thing. I know what has been released, that is all. You stated
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#184
Because there is no need for logic when you are defending the indefensible. You just keep throwing
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#67
The info he gave to the Chinese had nothing to do with domestic surveilance, PRISM or phone metadata
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#86
This will be completely ignored again in subsequent threads on this subject,
Benton D Struckcheon
Jul 2013
#131
I just have to keep repeating myself cause you guys keep circling back to the same,
Benton D Struckcheon
Jul 2013
#139
Because it's politically inconvenient to remind people we're getting screwed?
DirkGently
Jul 2013
#145