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In reply to the discussion: Matrix: who is Edward Snowden? [View all]blm
(113,176 posts)32. Jackson Stephens (deceased) bankrolled Bill Clinton's primary campaign, but, only when
it was determined that GHWBush needed to lose in Nov 92 because the BCCI report was to be released in Dec 92, and Jackson Stephens - a longtime friend and political backer of GHWBush - was a named figure. In fact, Stephens helped Bush bring BCCI into the US. Bush needed to lose in 92 because he was certain to face impeachment after the inevitable hearings that would follow the release of the BCCI report. Bush and Stephens were protecting themselves by assuring Clinton was the Dem nominee. Clinton won, insisted Dems must move on past investigations, buried the BCCI report.
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Who gives a fuck? The story is not about Snowden. It is about the NSA surveillance overreach. n/t
xocet
Jul 2013
#1
That over-reach was already known years earlier, and many other countries do it, too.
blm
Jul 2013
#4
Yes, the overreach was known about to some extent, and the Stasi did spy on East Germans....
xocet
Jul 2013
#12
Interesting tactic on your part....however, the story is still about the NSA overreach and not E. S.
xocet
Jul 2013
#28
I don't think it's about Snowden either - he was just a conduit. He was groomed to do
blm
Jul 2013
#29
BTW - what is 'important' about the story now that wasn't 'important' the previous 12 years
blm
Jul 2013
#33
The fact that these surveillance programs are STILL operating is one thing that is important.
xocet
Jul 2013
#35
We KNEW that when Congress legalized it. The program was institutionalized in 2006.
blm
Jul 2013
#38
I'm sure the same quantity of evidence exists for this theory as does for Snowden's claims: zero.
randome
Jul 2013
#41
How can you be sure? BTW, DNI Clapper lied to Congress. I presume you support lying to Congress...
xocet
Jul 2013
#42
From the beginning it smelled like a standard Bush op to me to prevent a Dem president
blm
Jul 2013
#3
Yes, and it was amazing how little condemnation there was when Snowden singlehandedly damaged
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#5
Pretty much everything. The deals in the 70s with China's financial and industrial elites
blm
Jul 2013
#11
that is interesting to me as rand paul's biggest career donor is the club for growth, jackson
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#17
i found it curious too. dad's biggest donors were army & navy groups. the kochs were in ron's
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#24