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Reply to usGovOwesUs3Trillion (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 08:45 PM

Jul 2013

Creative speculation, thick and fast.

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Matrix: who is Edward Snowden? [View all] flamingdem Jul 2013 OP

Who gives a fuck? The story is not about Snowden. It is about the NSA surveillance overreach. n/t xocet Jul 2013 #1

Maybe that's not the complete story flamingdem Jul 2013 #2

Actually he's secretly working with Obama to get this info to the public. reusrename Jul 2013 #18

I like that idea - be nice if true. ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #49

you sound like George W. Bush Skittles Jul 2013 #27

That over-reach was already known years earlier, and many other countries do it, too. blm Jul 2013 #4

Yes, the overreach was known about to some extent, and the Stasi did spy on East Germans.... xocet Jul 2013 #12

Why would I say it shouldn't be discussed? It's always been discussed plenty here blm Jul 2013 #14

But it isn't about "Bush Inc" now. Habibi Jul 2013 #23

What makes you believe that? Naive Dems thought BushInc was retired in 93, too. blm Jul 2013 #30

Interesting tactic on your part....however, the story is still about the NSA overreach and not E. S. xocet Jul 2013 #28

I don't think it's about Snowden either - he was just a conduit. He was groomed to do blm Jul 2013 #29

BTW - what is 'important' about the story now that wasn't 'important' the previous 12 years blm Jul 2013 #33

The fact that these surveillance programs are STILL operating is one thing that is important. xocet Jul 2013 #35

We KNEW that when Congress legalized it. The program was institutionalized in 2006. blm Jul 2013 #38

Do you have any evidence of these claims? n/t xocet Jul 2013 #39

I'm sure the same quantity of evidence exists for this theory as does for Snowden's claims: zero. randome Jul 2013 #41

How can you be sure? BTW, DNI Clapper lied to Congress. I presume you support lying to Congress... xocet Jul 2013 #42

I presume you support Obama being blamed for doing legally what was set in motion blm Jul 2013 #45

No, I don't support lying. randome Jul 2013 #48

Yes - coincidences where the Bush family is involved are never coincidences. blm Jul 2013 #44

Yep. Dell is a huge tipoff. Michael Dell gave $250,000 for W's inauguration. DevonRex Jul 2013 #40

One would have to be a 'coincidence theorist' to not see what happened here. blm Jul 2013 #43

And Dell is owned by Michael Dell and Silver Lake Partners. DevonRex Jul 2013 #50

From the beginning it smelled like a standard Bush op to me to prevent a Dem president blm Jul 2013 #3

Yes, and it was amazing how little condemnation there was when Snowden singlehandedly damaged flamingdem Jul 2013 #5

Walk down memory lane.... blm Jul 2013 #6

So that nixed Clinton's trip to China flamingdem Jul 2013 #7

Pretty much everything. The deals in the 70s with China's financial and industrial elites blm Jul 2013 #11

that is interesting to me as rand paul's biggest career donor is the club for growth, jackson HiPointDem Jul 2013 #17

Now that is quite interesting flamingdem Jul 2013 #19

i found it curious too. dad's biggest donors were army & navy groups. the kochs were in ron's HiPointDem Jul 2013 #24

Jackson Stephens (deceased) bankrolled Bill Clinton's primary campaign, but, only when blm Jul 2013 #32

I'm losing confidence in the proposition that he exists, frankly Recursion Jul 2013 #8

Well he hasn't spoken a word publically flamingdem Jul 2013 #9

I know, right? arely staircase Jul 2013 #16

interesting theory arely staircase Jul 2013 #10

You might be right. Who knows. But something sure feels wrong about him flamingdem Jul 2013 #13

the endgame to all this will be interesting in the short run arely staircase Jul 2013 #15

Maybe he intends to write a script about it and sell it to Hollywood Amonester Jul 2013 #21

No kidding. Maybe that's why he came out with forceful support flamingdem Jul 2013 #25

Absurd marions ghost Jul 2013 #46

Who Benefits? Financially? Politically? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #20

Yes, but this one's tougher than Follow The Money flamingdem Jul 2013 #22

NWO - Bushgang style. blm Jul 2013 #34

i have a theory. snowden is actually kermit roosevelt iii. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #26

Interesting.. kentuck Jul 2013 #31

This is a Bush op. Obviously. Same with all the CIA leaks. nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #36

Conspiracy Theories are a dime a dozen usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #37

Ditto marions ghost Jul 2013 #47

Typical when there's a dearth of knowledge. longship Jul 2013 #51

Why is this not in creative speculation? Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #52