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92. The translation seems to be fine.

Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:42 AM

Jul 2013

Here is the text from the article with a literal translation below it:

NSA-Affäre: Ex-Präsident Carter verdammt US-Schnüffelei
Von Gregor Peter Schmitz, Atlanta

...

Der ehemalige US-Präsident Jimmy Carter
(The) (former) (US President) (Jimmy) (Carter)

hat im Nachgang des NSA-Spähskandals
(has) (() (subsequently)) (to the) (NSA surveillance scandal)

das amerikanische politische System heftig kritisiert.
(the) (American) (political) (system) (roundly) (criticized).

"Amerika hat derzeit keine funktionierende Demokratie",
&quot America) (has) (presently) (no) (functioning) (Democracy),"

sagte Carter am Dienstag bei einer Veranstaltung
(said) (Carter) (on) (Tuesday) (at) (an) (event/meeting)

der "Atlantik-Brücke" in Atlanta.
(of the) &quot Atlantic Bridge)" (in) (Atlanta).

...

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nsa-affaere-jimmy-carter-kritisiert-usa-a-911589.html

So far, I have not been able to find a transcript or video of the meeting. Have you had any success in locating it?

The Carter Center does not seem to have it:

http://www.cartercenter.org/news/editorials_speeches/index.html

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Jimmy Carter issues statement on Snowden. "America no longer has a functioning democracy" [View all] Catherina Jul 2013 OP

Thank You For Sharing - Kick And Recomnend cantbeserious Jul 2013 #1

Thanks but all thanks go to President Carter who's not afraid to tell the truth Catherina Jul 2013 #3

"... No American media outlets reported on the event and it was not clear where Die Spiegel struggle4progress Jul 2013 #231

This is a rehash ProSense Jul 2013 #2

In other words: ljm2002 Jul 2013 #4

From the OP: ProSense Jul 2013 #24

From the OP: ljm2002 Jul 2013 #33

The headline is deceptive. Blanks Jul 2013 #119

Of course it is. Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #122

No fair, your using complete quotes. You are supposed to truncate it by replacing the "," after NorthCarolina Jul 2013 #138

"he 'violated the laws of America, for which he’s responsible'" OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #39

I ProSense Jul 2013 #58

I don't care if Snowden violated the law. Maedhros Jul 2013 #94

President Carter thinks he violated the law, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #123

No, the OP thinks that President Carter believes the information leaked by Snowden Maedhros Jul 2013 #147

Partial truths are not truth. nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #148

Those are Carter's own words. Maedhros Jul 2013 #152

You don't understyand what partial means, obviously Progressive dog Jul 2013 #169

I'm not following you. Maedhros Jul 2013 #171

The OP doesn't say it, it has to be Progressive dog Jul 2013 #173

You are splitting some really, really tiny hairs. Maedhros Jul 2013 #178

How come since Carter spoke in English, der Spiegel only reported in German Progressive dog Jul 2013 #179

because they are a German magazine muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #181

Okay nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #183

I don't know why Der Spiegel didn't publish this in their English version. Maedhros Jul 2013 #184

So they translated one way and we translate back to English nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #187

How come since Carter spoke in English, der Spiegel only reported in German ????? bvar22 Jul 2013 #229

No you can't, it's not as if there is no news in English Progressive dog Jul 2013 #232

At this point, dude, bvar22 Jul 2013 #233

I am an American and I think that things said in English Progressive dog Jul 2013 #234

Dear Progressive dog, there is a world outside of US borders. Really. :( idwiyo Jul 2013 #238

American president speaks in America in English Progressive dog Jul 2013 #240

You are complaining that GERMAN magazine doesn't cater primarily to English-only speaking public... idwiyo Jul 2013 #241

No I'm not, I'm complaing about the OP Progressive dog Jul 2013 #242

oh... No foreign language sourses should be allowed because this is American website? idwiyo Jul 2013 #243

Jimmy Carter spoke English in the speech Progressive dog Jul 2013 #244

You got all pissy with OP because American press didn't bother to provide a report and because idwiyo Jul 2013 #245

I made the mistake of assuming that an Atlanta event wasn't foreign Progressive dog Jul 2013 #246

Would you like some contact links to American mainstream News agencies so you can ask them why they idwiyo Jul 2013 #249

No Progressive dog Jul 2013 #250

Wow... xocet Jul 2013 #251

Wow is right nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #252

Yes, totally delusional and incoherent. NealK Jul 2013 #256

Explain exactly, in simple words and phrases quakerboy Jul 2013 #170

word G_j Jul 2013 #247

Or the banks that also violated laws? Did Obama hold them responsible? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #76

Great point! Banksters are above the law, no investigations needed. Snowden guilty evil traitor. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #124

Also, how about Clapper? Broward Jul 2013 #162

And Clapper lying to Congress is impeachable offense - which should mean that truedelphi Jul 2013 #196

We had to look forward. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #100

And by that logic, forget about ever participating in civil disobedience, ProSense... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #56

Yes. Clean your glasses off, ProSense. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #101

Thanks for your logic and also truedelphi Jul 2013 #197

If that quote is taken out of the context of the entire article, JDPriestly Jul 2013 #75

Results of your Jury bahrbearian Jul 2013 #126

That post was ALERTED on? Such nasty desperation to shut down debate! chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #130

Its all about Popularity. bahrbearian Jul 2013 #132

^^^this^^^ ...and it makes a joke out of the jury system. L0oniX Jul 2013 #141

three mins again! uncanny! nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #5

lol ctsnowman Jul 2013 #127

Give it up. Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #6

LOL. You have 200 Snowden smear threads that are all the same. DesMoinesDem Jul 2013 #12

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #142

+1 idwiyo Jul 2013 #216

Did you intend to include a period? burnodo Jul 2013 #23

And guess what, ProSense Jul 2013 #29

Why is it you only care about Snowden? burnodo Jul 2013 #31

ProSense doesn't really care about Snowden. Maedhros Jul 2013 #96

Results of your alert Kolesar Jul 2013 #120

+10000 Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #121

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jul 2013 #143

+1000 Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #165

K&R! idwiyo Jul 2013 #217

-1 darkangel218 Jul 2013 #26

It's not all a rehash. President Carter also made new remarks on Tuesday at the Atlantic Bridge. deurbano Jul 2013 #27

Yeah, let's ProSense Jul 2013 #32

Yeah, let's ljm2002 Jul 2013 #34

"If another country wants to give haven to Snowden, 'then that is their right as a sovereign nation" ProSense Jul 2013 #37

"If is up to Russia, where he's currently stuck." ... ??? ljm2002 Jul 2013 #40

Oops I meant ProSense Jul 2013 #44

And your point is? ljm2002 Jul 2013 #48

LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #50

Well that's what I was asking... ljm2002 Jul 2013 #57

lol, oh, the irony. You are worried about someone highlighting ONLY part of a quote?? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #61

And this isn't the first time I've pointed out Carter's comments that precede that selected quote. deurbano Jul 2013 #66

Be careful... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #85

YOU be careful! ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #111

PLUS A BRAZILLION! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #103

+1 and ...Oh ...kinda like a Fox news journalist? L0oniX Jul 2013 #144

Cutting and pasting is hard work N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2013 #164

This message was self-deleted by its author N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2013 #166

Really???!!! Phlem Jul 2013 #45

Good point! That's a really annoying thing. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #87

I guess people are less interested in your 1000th deceitful Snowden hate thread than this one. Marr Jul 2013 #220

"But" .... once again, you put a PERIOD where President Carter puts a COMMA. Pholus Jul 2013 #226

In making secrecy paramount Boothie Jul 2013 #7

Welcome to DU Boothie RobertEarl Jul 2013 #18

They wouldn't be making that claim under a republican administration. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #137

I wouldn't give them too much credence or time. rwsanders Jul 2013 #192

Double welcome! Catherina Jul 2013 #36

Another welcome to DU. Cleita Jul 2013 #49

That is exactly correct! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #104

Welcome to DU, Boothie! calimary Jul 2013 #158

Welcome Boothie! N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2013 #167

Welcome. woo me with science Jul 2013 #236

Obviously Jimmy Carter is the new Ralph Nader. N.T. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #8

I guess someone's going to say he's not a good Democrat, next. leveymg Jul 2013 #14

I guess you are sarcasm impaired. Seek help. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #15

Sorry, had to clean my glasses. Didn't see the snark until it was too late. . . and then I wasted leveymg Jul 2013 #19

Why does that little guy look like Karl Rove? chervilant Jul 2013 #106

Even better - that is 'The Banker' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #114

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #9

Yeah, and Carter thinks the Zimmerman verdict was right. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #10

Must be them damn liberals trying to hold the Republican NSA accountable. Next rhett o rick Jul 2013 #42

It ain't in trouble. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #77

It was gone a long time ago. The Democracy they teach in grade school is a fairy tale. harun Jul 2013 #136

Exactly. n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #174

Another thing, ProSense Jul 2013 #11

That makes way more sense. Those are the reasons our democracy is in trouble, not the NSA. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #20

Those and the NSA caseymoz Jul 2013 #51

Actually, Carter said that the NSA program is endangering the credibility or trustworthiness JDPriestly Jul 2013 #78

The "democracy comment" was on Tuesday; this speech was on Wednesday. deurbano Jul 2013 #28

FWIW, Obama made at least one very similar comment cprise Jul 2013 #35

If accurately quoted burnodo Jul 2013 #47

& The Snowbots put their fingers in their ears and say "la la la, can't hear you"... eom Kolesar Jul 2013 #102

Tues: Atlantik-Brücke; Wed: OCSE forum on the US November elections muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #117

Thanks for posting the link to the organization. xocet Jul 2013 #139

It also makes sense that Der Spiegel might notice it when US media didn't muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #149

Indeed. xocet Jul 2013 #160

"America no longer has a functioning democracy," marions ghost Jul 2013 #13

Get ye to the Greatest Page. woo me with science Jul 2013 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jul 2013 #207

For those who claim it's always been like this, here's testimony that it hasn't. leveymg Jul 2013 #17

I am sure some will want to argue with President Carter, maybe send him some horrible blue links Catherina Jul 2013 #22

Will he be called a narcissist desperately trying to stay relevant? nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #25

Or a racist who's mad about his pony and deliberately timed his statement to hurt President Obama Catherina Jul 2013 #30

Thank you. snot Jul 2013 #21

K&R rosesaylavee Jul 2013 #38

Even Carter says Snowden should be in jail right now. railsback Jul 2013 #41

Thats not all he said. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #43

No, I'm not the one making him say what he's not. railsback Jul 2013 #72

It's helpful to read the articles at the links before commenting. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #79

When did President Carter say Snowden should be in jail? deurbano Jul 2013 #67

Trying to mix oil and water railsback Jul 2013 #70

We give amnesty to all kinds of people who claim to be political refugees. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #80

But he doesn't say Snowden gets safe passage, does he? railsback Jul 2013 #83

cyclops delrem Jul 2013 #88

No, actually, he didn't. No one who respects the rule of law WOULD say such a thing until sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #68

He said he obviously violated U.S. laws railsback Jul 2013 #69

Carter clearly states that the violation of laws is not the end of the story JDPriestly Jul 2013 #82

Interpretation is right. railsback Jul 2013 #84

There is a video on DU of Sensenbrenner's questioning of an administraton spokesman JDPriestly Jul 2013 #97

If it was illegal railsback Jul 2013 #107

"He said he obviously violated U.S. laws" vs "Even Carter says Snowden should be in jail right now" deurbano Jul 2013 #89

For one railsback Jul 2013 #91

I harbor no illusion that President Obama will pardon Snowden... deurbano Jul 2013 #98

No, if you tried really hard, you might understand that someone who understands 'innocent sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #176

Violating laws, as Carter says, is pretty cut and dry railsback Jul 2013 #188

You were wrong, period. Seems hard for you to admit. Carter did not say he belonged in jail sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #189

I suppose you can interpret life any way you like to fit the meme railsback Jul 2013 #193

Interpret? It was you who 'interpreted', (incorrectly) Carter's words. There was no need for ME sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #213

Like I said, nothing but interpretation, railsback Jul 2013 #224

Another misinterpretation on your part. The comparison was not between Snowden and the FFs sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #225

"I suppose if I squinted my eyes really hard and double crossed my fingers, I could see it your way" NealK Jul 2013 #257

Dick Cheney should be in jail right now. Pholus Jul 2013 #227

I agree railsback Jul 2013 #228

Seems just like there are two versions of the law these days.... Pholus Jul 2013 #230

I fucking LOVE Jimmy Carter. cliffordu Jul 2013 #46

This man should run for his second term. nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #52

I'd vote for him. Gladly n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #53

So would I...in a heartbeat. nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #55

Quick! Throw Carter under the bus, too! truth2power Jul 2013 #54

What dirt can we dig up on him?! backscatter712 Jul 2013 #60

I think at one time Jimmy Carter was addicted ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #116

Catherina, who did the translation of the Der Spiegel article? Has that HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #59

Hi HardTimes! Catherina Jul 2013 #86

The following translation is correct... defacto7 Jul 2013 #95

I almost went with ""America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time" Catherina Jul 2013 #204

Here is a question regarding the translation if you have the time... xocet Jul 2013 #153

My head spins lol Catherina Jul 2013 #200

Thank you for your commentary. xocet Jul 2013 #208

Temmer is a German poster here Catherina Jul 2013 #218

That is really cool. xocet Jul 2013 #219

I wish the US would too Catherina Jul 2013 #221

There were a lot of students from another US university in Stuttgart. xocet Jul 2013 #223

I like all sorts Catherina Jul 2013 #248

It is interesting that you bring up dynamical systems.... xocet Jul 2013 #254

Catherina, all the English language souces I've seen point back to the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #195

No I haven't. Der Spiegel is the only original source Catherina Jul 2013 #201

The translation seems to be fine. xocet Jul 2013 #92

Carter said something in English, which the reporters at HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #194

I, too, would love to see a transcript of President Carter's original remarks, but... xocet Jul 2013 #211

Jimmy! AzDar Jul 2013 #62

We're gonna need a bigger bus! westerebus Jul 2013 #63

knr Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #64

There you go.... ReRe Jul 2013 #65

In the Der Spiegel article, Carter also stated JDPriestly Jul 2013 #71

Nothing like hearing it from someone intelligent and Wise. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #73

You can ALWAYS depend upon Jimmy Carter to tell the truth. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #74

"He’s obviously violated the laws of America, for which he’s responsible" railsback Jul 2013 #81

"Cherry picking" would be using those selective quotes and leaving out the context. deurbano Jul 2013 #90

Not once does he call Snowden a 'whistleblower'. railsback Jul 2013 #93

He also doesn't call Snowden a traitor. deurbano Jul 2013 #99

Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #105

Keeping this kicked, too... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #108

If more prominent individuals worldwide chervilant Jul 2013 #109

WRONG!!!! WovenGems Jul 2013 #110

I always thought: "It can't happen here." Turbineguy Jul 2013 #112

k&r for James Earl Carter, Jr. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #113

Carter will never be ass kissed at the obama's whitehouse now Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #115

I think we knew that early on Oilwellian Jul 2013 #131

Notice Both Bushie's surround him Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #134

I've always noticed in these photos Lifelong Protester Jul 2013 #145

If he ran again, he'd win. Precsely for that reason Catherina Jul 2013 #157

Very interesting photograph. roamer65 Jul 2013 #205

But Obama looks so uhm presidential. Where's Bo? L0oniX Jul 2013 #140

Picture worth a thousand words, TheJames Jul 2013 #155

K&R Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #118

If he thought he was a "non-person" before........ Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #125

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #128

du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #129

this heaven05 Jul 2013 #133

Program Note: Todays 'Two Minutes Hate', will feature Jimmy Carter markiv Jul 2013 #135

Carter has given missives in the last couple of weeks that have the devotees of this guy... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #146

K & R - You beat me to it Catherina. LOL. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #150

Where did you see it? Catherina Jul 2013 #156

Sorry but I don't remember 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #163

K&R, good to see Pres. Carter's support quinnox Jul 2013 #151

We haven't had a functioning democracy since November 2000. roamer65 Jul 2013 #154

Sad but true. Kudos to President Carter for speaking the truth. polichick Jul 2013 #159

Jimmy is right. Conium Jul 2013 #161

Run, Jimmy....RUN! roamer65 Jul 2013 #206

President Carter sets the bar high for other former Presidents. another_liberal Jul 2013 #168

Thanks, Catherina. Have posted on Facebook!! n/t Duval Jul 2013 #172

At least we have a functioning President. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #175

Carter is the best president of my lifetime blackspade Jul 2013 #177

No matter who sings the song. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #180

Hell, I was already saying that after Citizens United... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #182

Jimmy Carter is very credible. kentuck Jul 2013 #185

Kick and Rec for Carter and Catherina. Good reads. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #186

Thank you PRESIDENT Carter. I have and always will love him. nt live love laugh Jul 2013 #190

President Carter is 100% correct. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #191

I voted for Carter, against the gipper and GHWB, for Clinton, against junior, and for indepat Jul 2013 #198

"I'm with Carter on this one and am confident he would not speak out against a Democratic deurbano Jul 2013 #203

K&R It's true we no longer have a functioning democracy. We have a plutarchy. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #199

+1 woo me with science Jul 2013 #237

seems like a lot of people agree, our democracy is kind of messed up. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #202

I am now a Carter Center donor. roamer65 Jul 2013 #209

The NYTimes editorial doesn't mention Snowden. Sparkly Jul 2013 #210

K&R n/t myrna minx Jul 2013 #212

If you haven't seen it, watch his July 15, 1979 address. roamer65 Jul 2013 #214

K&R idwiyo Jul 2013 #215

He is correct nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #222

He stands apart from all recent Presidents. American democracy and the Constitution woo me with science Jul 2013 #235

Notice how the monkey W has to put himself front and center. roamer65 Jul 2013 #239

In every picture too. I have yet to see a picture of them not pushing Carter to the side Catherina Jul 2013 #255

Jimmy's right tabasco Jul 2013 #253