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In reply to the discussion: US Threatens To Eliminate Trade With Venezuela If It Provides Snowden With Asylum [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)114. Gawd they are so tone-deaf. You chart is the neoliberals' dream come true
Washington will also begin prosecuting prominent Venezuelan politicians on allegations of drug trafficking, money laundering and other criminal actions, Kerry reportedly said, and specifically mentioned some names in his conversation with the Venezuelan FM.
He further said that Washington is well aware of Venezuelas dependence on the US when it comes to refined oil products. Despite being one of the worlds largest oil producers, Venezuela requires more petrol and oil products than it can produce, buying around 500,000 barrels of gasoline every month, roughly another half million barrels of fuel for power plants, and some 350,000 barrels of MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether) the additive used for to increase octane in gasoline.
The US Secretary of State bluntly warned that fuel supplies would be halted if President Maduro continues to reach out to the fugitive NSA contractor.
Neither the US State Department nor the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry have so far commented on ABCs report.
http://rt.com/news/kerry-threatens-venezuela-snowden-308/
He further said that Washington is well aware of Venezuelas dependence on the US when it comes to refined oil products. Despite being one of the worlds largest oil producers, Venezuela requires more petrol and oil products than it can produce, buying around 500,000 barrels of gasoline every month, roughly another half million barrels of fuel for power plants, and some 350,000 barrels of MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether) the additive used for to increase octane in gasoline.
The US Secretary of State bluntly warned that fuel supplies would be halted if President Maduro continues to reach out to the fugitive NSA contractor.
Neither the US State Department nor the Venezuelan Foreign Ministry have so far commented on ABCs report.
http://rt.com/news/kerry-threatens-venezuela-snowden-308/
Meanwhile, you have to wonder why the US refuses to hear the ALBA countries' CLEAR message that they don't care, they don't need us. How many times have they made that clear?
First they have their own refinery
The Paraguaná Refinery Complex (Spanish: Centro de Refinación de Paraguaná) is a crude oil refinery complex in Venezuela. It is considered the world's second largest refinery complex, just after Jamnagar Refinery in India. The Paraguaná Refinery Complex was created by the fusion of Amuay Refinery, Bajo Grande Refinery and Cardón Refinery.[1] As of 2012, it refines 955 thousand barrels per day (151,800 m3/d).[2] The complex is located in the Paraguaná Peninsula in Falcón state (Amuay and Cardón refineries) and the western coast of Lake Maracaibo in the Zulia state (Bajo Grande Refinery).[3] The complex accounts for 71% of the refining capacity of Venezuela and it belongs to the state-owned company Petróleos de Venezuela (PDVSA).[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguan%C3%A1_Refinery_Complex
and they're building more with the help of the Chinese
CNPC, Venezuela joint refinery set for 2014 opening
China National Petroleum Corp said on Wednesday that its Guangdong-based mega joint refinery with Venezuelan partner Petroleos de Venezuela SA started construction last Friday and is set to open by the end of 2014.
The 58.6-billion-yuan ($9.3 billion) project, in which CNPC will hold a 60 percent stake and the PDVSA will hold the remaining 40 percent, has a designed annual processing capacity of 20 million metric tons, or 400,000 barrels a day, making it the country's biggest integrated refining complex ever built at once.
The project will process Merey-16 heavy oil from Venezuela, China's fourth-biggest crude oil supplier in the first quarter.
It will mainly produce gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, CNPC said.
...
http://www.china.org.cn/business/2012-05/03/content_25290715.htm
China National Petroleum Corp said on Wednesday that its Guangdong-based mega joint refinery with Venezuelan partner Petroleos de Venezuela SA started construction last Friday and is set to open by the end of 2014.
The 58.6-billion-yuan ($9.3 billion) project, in which CNPC will hold a 60 percent stake and the PDVSA will hold the remaining 40 percent, has a designed annual processing capacity of 20 million metric tons, or 400,000 barrels a day, making it the country's biggest integrated refining complex ever built at once.
The project will process Merey-16 heavy oil from Venezuela, China's fourth-biggest crude oil supplier in the first quarter.
It will mainly produce gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, CNPC said.
...
http://www.china.org.cn/business/2012-05/03/content_25290715.htm
And Russia. And lol India.
Russia deepens Venezuela oil ties
by: Geoff Hiscock
From: The Australian
February 14, 2013 9:51AM
WHILE the United States forges ahead with its shale-led energy revolution, Russia is steadily building up its stake in the oil industry of Venezuela, where anti-American rhetoric has been the hallmark of now-ailing leader Hugo Chavezs 14-year rule.
Igor Sechin, president of Russias state-owned oil giant Rosneft, declared last month the oil-rich South American country would be the main focus of Rosnefts overseas investments.
Under a series of accords signed during Sechins visit to Venezuela on January 29-30, Russia will commit to invest up to $US40 billion in jointly exploiting the Orinoco extra-heavy oil belt -- regarded as one of the worlds largest hydrocarbon reserves -- with Venezuelas state-owned Petroleos de Venezuela SA (PDVSA).
The US Geological Survey estimated in 2010 that the Orinoco belt, a 600-km strip straddling the Orinoco River in the central-eastern part of Venezuela, held 513 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil. According to OPEC statistics, Venezuelas proven reserves stand at 296 billion barrels, the largest in the world.
...
Indian private sector giant Reliance Industries Ltd (RIL), led by Indias richest man Mukesh Ambani, is another investor in Venezuelan oil and gas projects, and is considered likely to commit a further $2 billion this year to more exploration and development of Orinoco oil belt prospects.
Last October Reliance signed a 15-year heavy crude oil supply contract and a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with PDVSA to further develop Venezuelas heavy oil fields. Under the contract, PDVSA will supply between 300,000 and 400,000 barrels a day of Venezuelan heavy crude to Reliances two refineries at Jamnagar in Gujarat state.
...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/russia-deepens-venezuela-oil-ties/story-e6frg9df-1226577701328
by: Geoff Hiscock
From: The Australian
February 14, 2013 9:51AM
WHILE the United States forges ahead with its shale-led energy revolution, Russia is steadily building up its stake in the oil industry of Venezuela, where anti-American rhetoric has been the hallmark of now-ailing leader Hugo Chavezs 14-year rule.
Igor Sechin, president of Russias state-owned oil giant Rosneft, declared last month the oil-rich South American country would be the main focus of Rosnefts overseas investments.
Under a series of accords signed during Sechins visit to Venezuela on January 29-30, Russia will commit to invest up to $US40 billion in jointly exploiting the Orinoco extra-heavy oil belt -- regarded as one of the worlds largest hydrocarbon reserves -- with Venezuelas state-owned Petroleos de Venezuela SA (PDVSA).
The US Geological Survey estimated in 2010 that the Orinoco belt, a 600-km strip straddling the Orinoco River in the central-eastern part of Venezuela, held 513 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil. According to OPEC statistics, Venezuelas proven reserves stand at 296 billion barrels, the largest in the world.
...
Indian private sector giant Reliance Industries Ltd (RIL), led by Indias richest man Mukesh Ambani, is another investor in Venezuelan oil and gas projects, and is considered likely to commit a further $2 billion this year to more exploration and development of Orinoco oil belt prospects.
Last October Reliance signed a 15-year heavy crude oil supply contract and a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with PDVSA to further develop Venezuelas heavy oil fields. Under the contract, PDVSA will supply between 300,000 and 400,000 barrels a day of Venezuelan heavy crude to Reliances two refineries at Jamnagar in Gujarat state.
...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/russia-deepens-venezuela-oil-ties/story-e6frg9df-1226577701328
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US Threatens To Eliminate Trade With Venezuela If It Provides Snowden With Asylum [View all]
Catherina
Jul 2013
OP
"Is it our arrogance that blinds us and makes us make huge mistakes like this?"
ConcernedCanuk
Jul 2013
#98
Agreed, in our desperation to inflict harm on Snowden we will reduce our influence to Latin America
Katashi_itto
Jul 2013
#127
Hmmm.... Maybe it is the Koch brothers that are fueling this UNAMERICAN policy...
cascadiance
Jul 2013
#21
They could build their own refinery easily, but we can not get more oil easily or cheaply
1-Old-Man
Jul 2013
#125
US imports of Venezuelan oil are at a 30 year low. We export gasoline to 'em.
joshcryer
Jul 2013
#100
I can't believe they're still pretending the empire has the clout and good-will it used to.
Catherina
Jul 2013
#9
I would think that threatening them with sending them more Wall Street bankers for "help"...
Safetykitten
Jul 2013
#5
Lol, Good one! What they have to say about our *bankers* is some of the best stuff on the net
Catherina
Jul 2013
#12
i need to read up on our current relationship with south america, does anyone have..
allin99
Jul 2013
#7
That' because Bin Laden was never a real threat to the Government, but Snowden is.
1-Old-Man
Jul 2013
#13
So 3,000+ dead Americans = no real threat, vs 0 dead by Snowden = Threat?
ShadowLiberal
Jul 2013
#70
Even after pointing that out, posters are climbing on board without bothering...
randome
Jul 2013
#110
I think it's more about protecting a system that relies too heavily on the military and espionage
Catherina
Jul 2013
#91
Pakistan cooperated with the U.S. and there were discussion about cutting aid. n/t
ProSense
Jul 2013
#20
You do know we conducted the raid without Pakistans approve or even Knowledge.
bahrbearian
Jul 2013
#66
They seem to be in panic mode. Like a police department frantically threatening everyone
limpyhobbler
Jul 2013
#63
The heating assistance program helped tens of thousand when our government failed to do so
DainBramaged
Jul 2013
#47
This will surely give the follower authoritarians among us a little tingle. Their authoritarian Big
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#51
Maduro didn't win the election by much. My guess is that he's fully capable of playing
byeya
Jul 2013
#68
They were already going up before this. I agree with you that this will make them even higher
Catherina
Jul 2013
#76
If you don't mind, I'll be counting on you to monitor this and see if the Venezualen people
byeya
Jul 2013
#113
agree. the u.s. might do something with the trade but it's not going to be this extreme...
allin99
Jul 2013
#72
78 replies, and this is the first one to utter the name "Obama" - as in, this is Obama's policy.
reformist2
Jul 2013
#78
Big brother is quick to punish the impertinent who has annoyed him and, as Cuba
indepat
Jul 2013
#88
Sad for us to be alienating contries with more progressive platforms but true. n/t
Catherina
Jul 2013
#115
More and more countries and more and more people are waking up to the fact that the American
DemocratForJustice
Jul 2013
#108
Are you ever going to address the point that the source of this item is one you previously disowned?
randome
Jul 2013
#119
The predictable result: "Venezuela has terminated talks with the United States"
Catherina
Jul 2013
#121
Most in Venezuela know who and what the nomenclature of "US" really represents
nolabels
Jul 2013
#137
Translation: Global bully throws hissy fit when it does not get its own way. nt
Deep13
Jul 2013
#126
Article - "With “Zero Tolerance to Gringo Aggression,” Maduro Cuts Off Venezuela-U.S. Talks"
Catherina
Jul 2013
#145