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33. Also a good point.

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Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:12 PM

Aug 2013

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US says Manning leak hurt human rights work [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2013 OP

Leaked Names Shuttled to Safety, Ambassador Says struggle4progress Aug 2013 #1

With 250,000 cables, they can't cite a single solid case of serious actual harm? Just at-risk? leveymg Aug 2013 #3

'At risk' is 'not good'. randome Aug 2013 #9

There's a burden of proof in criminal matters - "Not good" doesn't meet the standard leveymg Aug 2013 #12

I agree with you on the 'proving harm' issue. randome Aug 2013 #27

LOL reusrename Aug 2013 #57

But the burden of proof in sentencing is lower than BRD. Remember, what may not convict you msanthrope Aug 2013 #35

Right, because people have to die for you to care. The CIA had pnwmom Aug 2013 #29

Also a good point. randome Aug 2013 #33

Then, we are all in agreement that no great harm has come of this. leveymg Aug 2013 #34

Death isn't the only possible harm. If an effective agent had to be removed, pnwmom Aug 2013 #42

Nothing like the CIA using vaccinations as cover to collect DNA. morningfog Aug 2013 #2

+1 idwiyo Aug 2013 #53

LOL. "Nazis Charge Jews WIth Genocide." The header's a keeper. n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #4

What's your actual evidence that Michael Kozak is a "Nazi", asiode from your smirk? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #7

That's not at all what the poster said and you know it. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #14

Article to which said poster responded was abot KOzak's testimony struggle4progress Aug 2013 #23

Oh yeah, the video comes to mind. Didn't look like human rights to me. Autumn Aug 2013 #5

It's not just yr view. It's mine as well... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #32

This is all getting to be so disgusting. Autumn Aug 2013 #49

It definitely did in the Maldives Recursion Aug 2013 #6

LOL. This from the country that's murdering civilians with drones. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #8

Weasel Speak. Human Rights Workers = Agents trained at the School of the Americas, now Zorra Aug 2013 #10

That's just ignorant... Pelican Aug 2013 #11

Ooooh, bingo, I hit a nerve! nt Zorra Aug 2013 #18

Only in the sense... Pelican Aug 2013 #19

Yes, aid workers do some amazing stuff. But that's not who Kozak was Zorra Aug 2013 #20

Actually, I was just referring to what you were talking about... Pelican Aug 2013 #21

Ah, sorry. You see, I recall Assistant Secretary Kozak being involved in Zorra Aug 2013 #24

He's a career Department of State professional. He's unlikely to have been involved in much during struggle4progress Aug 2013 #30

I'm quite sure that he was involved in the Iran Contra scandal proceedings. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #43

In Volume I of the Walsh report, the Index indicates his name appears only in Chapter 24, struggle4progress Aug 2013 #46

Nah...there's actually a bit more to it all than just that. Acting Assistant Secretary Michael Kozak Zorra Aug 2013 #52

Well, those are interesting links. Thanks! and thanks for the SoA heads-up struggle4progress Aug 2013 #56

Reframing ...It's so easy even the US gov can do it. Before ya know it... L0oniX Aug 2013 #13

The U.S. looks like fools Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #15

That's rich. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #16

Like drones maybe? 99Forever Aug 2013 #17

If only they would have cared this much about Valerie Plame. Rex Aug 2013 #22

Who was actually doing something important Aerows Aug 2013 #38

Yes and they all laughed over it with Bob Novak. Rex Aug 2013 #44

Manning didn't know wtf he was leaking.. he and the people involved Cha Aug 2013 #25

Us treatment of Manning in custody hurt American credibility on human rights issues, they mean Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #26

Pilkington, like too many other Assangists, misrepresented that report struggle4progress Aug 2013 #28

Attacking the messenger, nice Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #31

Pilkington claims in the Guardian article that "The UN special rapporteur on torture struggle4progress Aug 2013 #36

Dizzy yet from all that spinning? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #39

I love the conclusion Aerows Aug 2013 #41

I've never argued for solitary confinement, and I've never argued that extended solitary confinement struggle4progress Aug 2013 #45

Manning was held, naked, in isolation, for 23 hours a day for nine months. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #48

No. He was not held naked in isolation for nine months. struggle4progress Aug 2013 #50

Regardless of the length of time which he was denied clothing... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #51

Getting the facts right is not a "justification" of anything: it's a pre-requisite struggle4progress Aug 2013 #54

allowed visitors once a week and in isolation the rest of the time? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #55

Allowed visitors on Saturdays and Sundays, as I undersood it. And according to the brig at the time, struggle4progress Aug 2013 #58

What? Aerows Aug 2013 #40

I completely agree with the statement struggle4progress Aug 2013 #47

Any old lame excuse. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #37