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LittleGirl

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64. another IT person looking

Wed Aug 7, 2013, 07:00 PM

Aug 2013

for work. I have 20+ yrs experience so it's b.s. saying that they can't find people to do the jobs. They can't find people that will work for peanuts with no benefits like sick pay, health care or vacation pay.

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THE PAY IS TOO DAMN LOW [View all] n2doc Aug 2013 OP

If You Don't Like The Pay On The Job You Have You Are Free To Go Get Another One TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 #1

Yep, because as we all all know there is an infinite supply of jobs out there n/t n2doc Aug 2013 #2

I think they mean TBF Aug 2013 #3

I believe they think there are tons of jobs "going begging to be filled" n2doc Aug 2013 #4

Maximum unemployment rates - TBF Aug 2013 #6

Thanks TBF for the link. Doing a little analysis . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #29

Nice analysis - TBF Aug 2013 #44

jobs go begging kardonb Aug 2013 #28

Can you name a specific company that's having a shortage? JoeyT Aug 2013 #37

bullshit. a lot of folks dont' want hard physical labor that pays minimum wage -- but they are HiPointDem Aug 2013 #40

Millions of jobs? Tens of Millions? n2doc Aug 2013 #47

That "worker shortage in IT" bullshit is always preparatory to asking for more H1B visas. LongTomH Aug 2013 #54

another IT person looking LittleGirl Aug 2013 #64

Right wingers say this: treestar Aug 2013 #92

so sayeth an ex-employer of mine, and I took his advice wordpix Aug 2013 #15

Problem with independent contracting is retaining work. haele Aug 2013 #30

waitress pay in georgia is 2.13$ an hour roguevalley Aug 2013 #82

That's pretty much the pay in all states . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #93

they pay more in Alaska. its all too sad roguevalley Aug 2013 #94

And what's the plan from the top? woo me with science Aug 2013 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #7

This is going to hurt more than you think dman85 Aug 2013 #10

What a bunch of whooey n2doc Aug 2013 #11

In most businesses, the overhead comes from materials Gore1FL Aug 2013 #13

Materials? Munificence Aug 2013 #18

Not my experience. n/t Gore1FL Aug 2013 #19

Mine neither. I'm a small biz owner in IL and the LOWEST wage I START is $10/hr riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #58

You are an exception KentuckyWoman Aug 2013 #74

Who can live on $10//hr ????? feathateathn Aug 2013 #88

Good thing he doesn't live on that. He's retired and only works for me @ 10 hours/wk riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #91

It's a massive increase. dman85 Aug 2013 #46

Paying people livable wages in the past do not lead to this. Gore1FL Aug 2013 #62

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #79

I employed home helpers for my mother for 4+ years at mostly $20/hr wordpix Aug 2013 #20

Sorry to say, but facts don't support your conclusions . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #23

I'm sorry but did you even read the OP? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #24

Why not higher then? dman85 Aug 2013 #43

Specious argument there... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #45

Deflection.... dman85 Aug 2013 #48

No it was not deflection... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #50

again....why not more? dman85 Aug 2013 #57

why not slave labor? less labor expense is better, yes? maybe pay to work? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #61

Typical....deflection after deflection. dman85 Aug 2013 #63

You know, you haven't addressed my real life, real time example in post #58 riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #65

why not 200%? why not minus 100%? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #66

and typical of whom? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #67

for whom is deflection typical? nt tiny elvis Aug 2013 #68

Yes, even higher minimum wages would be even better for most of the economy. fasttense Aug 2013 #78

Exactly! feathateathn Aug 2013 #90

I think you're in the wrong place. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #70

I see no problem. sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #80

Bullshit. Notafraidtoo Aug 2013 #55

Washington State made a "dramatic and significant hike in the minimum wage" to $9.19 per hour. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #85

Heeey, waitaminit... pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #8

A recent study shows that it's impossible to live on minimum wage AndyA Aug 2013 #9

"I think Congress should be paid minimum wage, by the hour" - Excellent idea wordpix Aug 2013 #22

Unfortunately, congress can not change their salary . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #25

True, they can't change their salary THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM US. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #27

How convenient. bvar22 Aug 2013 #49

Democratic economy summit. MOAR COSTCOS! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #12

This is where the righties are coming from... malthaussen Aug 2013 #14

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #16

+1000 At the Jobs for Justice Rally in KC last week, I heard from fast food workers, including.... LongTomH Aug 2013 #52

Why isn't minimum wage based on cost of living B2G Aug 2013 #17

Great point. dman85 Aug 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Aug 2013 #21

Maybe it would help to stop signing let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries "free trade" agreements. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #26

STOP IT! woo me with science Aug 2013 #31

Actually, things are utterly hopeless. But I don't care. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #34

Well, I meant helplessness re: the things you mentioned, woo me with science Aug 2013 #36

I am up for a job in IT and listed $55k as my salary requirement. Myrina Aug 2013 #32

You are in IT? When he seeks to hire a H-1B replacment, I hope that you have a contract with a AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #35

I know, right? Myrina Aug 2013 #39

Whatever you do, always work towards getting a written employment contract with a clause AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #41

And five years earlier they were earning $70K or more. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #53

Yes, this is the problem Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #33

They won't HAVE to raise prices, they WANT to raise prices. . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #38

They most certainly will have to raise prices Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #72

Currently . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #86

The profiteers won't be happy til working people once again live like this HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #51

I fully support a living wage for fast food workers Bake Aug 2013 #42

I know a guy who is a supervisor for an elevator company here in Vegas.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #56

This is the source of so many problems shenmue Aug 2013 #60

but then they wouldnt be desperate and scared sigmasix Aug 2013 #76

we got soul on the dole, we don't take no shit from the benefit Divine Discontent Aug 2013 #71

AND the rent is too damn high!!! nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #73

. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #75

Workers need to stop waiting around for politicians to flick a crumb off their table. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #77

my my, the chamber of commerce types are out in droves. mopinko Aug 2013 #81

americans need to understand this duality pasto76 Aug 2013 #83

Maybe if they were paid better, they would n2doc Aug 2013 #84

kick woo me with science Aug 2013 #87

A low minimum wage would be okay if it was a starting point. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #89