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sigmasix

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76. but then they wouldnt be desperate and scared

Thu Aug 8, 2013, 03:15 AM

Aug 2013

and everyone knows that the criminally wealthy prefer the lower classes to know their place. Without a desperate working class the criminal wealthy cannot force workers to do the job of 3 employees while accepting pay-cuts, denigration of labor rights and reduced or eliminated benefits.
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Eating the rich would be unpleasant- couldn't we just cook 'em and keep the left-overs in the freezer? (not to be taken seriously as a threat to cook the rich)

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THE PAY IS TOO DAMN LOW [View all] n2doc Aug 2013 OP

If You Don't Like The Pay On The Job You Have You Are Free To Go Get Another One TheMastersNemesis Aug 2013 #1

Yep, because as we all all know there is an infinite supply of jobs out there n/t n2doc Aug 2013 #2

I think they mean TBF Aug 2013 #3

I believe they think there are tons of jobs "going begging to be filled" n2doc Aug 2013 #4

Maximum unemployment rates - TBF Aug 2013 #6

Thanks TBF for the link. Doing a little analysis . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #29

Nice analysis - TBF Aug 2013 #44

jobs go begging kardonb Aug 2013 #28

Can you name a specific company that's having a shortage? JoeyT Aug 2013 #37

bullshit. a lot of folks dont' want hard physical labor that pays minimum wage -- but they are HiPointDem Aug 2013 #40

Millions of jobs? Tens of Millions? n2doc Aug 2013 #47

That "worker shortage in IT" bullshit is always preparatory to asking for more H1B visas. LongTomH Aug 2013 #54

another IT person looking LittleGirl Aug 2013 #64

Right wingers say this: treestar Aug 2013 #92

so sayeth an ex-employer of mine, and I took his advice wordpix Aug 2013 #15

Problem with independent contracting is retaining work. haele Aug 2013 #30

waitress pay in georgia is 2.13$ an hour roguevalley Aug 2013 #82

That's pretty much the pay in all states . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #93

they pay more in Alaska. its all too sad roguevalley Aug 2013 #94

And what's the plan from the top? woo me with science Aug 2013 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #7

This is going to hurt more than you think dman85 Aug 2013 #10

What a bunch of whooey n2doc Aug 2013 #11

In most businesses, the overhead comes from materials Gore1FL Aug 2013 #13

Materials? Munificence Aug 2013 #18

Not my experience. n/t Gore1FL Aug 2013 #19

Mine neither. I'm a small biz owner in IL and the LOWEST wage I START is $10/hr riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #58

You are an exception KentuckyWoman Aug 2013 #74

Who can live on $10//hr ????? feathateathn Aug 2013 #88

Good thing he doesn't live on that. He's retired and only works for me @ 10 hours/wk riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #91

It's a massive increase. dman85 Aug 2013 #46

Paying people livable wages in the past do not lead to this. Gore1FL Aug 2013 #62

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #79

I employed home helpers for my mother for 4+ years at mostly $20/hr wordpix Aug 2013 #20

Sorry to say, but facts don't support your conclusions . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #23

I'm sorry but did you even read the OP? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #24

Why not higher then? dman85 Aug 2013 #43

Specious argument there... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #45

Deflection.... dman85 Aug 2013 #48

No it was not deflection... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #50

again....why not more? dman85 Aug 2013 #57

why not slave labor? less labor expense is better, yes? maybe pay to work? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #61

Typical....deflection after deflection. dman85 Aug 2013 #63

You know, you haven't addressed my real life, real time example in post #58 riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #65

why not 200%? why not minus 100%? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #66

and typical of whom? tiny elvis Aug 2013 #67

for whom is deflection typical? nt tiny elvis Aug 2013 #68

Yes, even higher minimum wages would be even better for most of the economy. fasttense Aug 2013 #78

Exactly! feathateathn Aug 2013 #90

I think you're in the wrong place. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #70

I see no problem. sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #80

Bullshit. Notafraidtoo Aug 2013 #55

Washington State made a "dramatic and significant hike in the minimum wage" to $9.19 per hour. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #85

Heeey, waitaminit... pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #8

A recent study shows that it's impossible to live on minimum wage AndyA Aug 2013 #9

"I think Congress should be paid minimum wage, by the hour" - Excellent idea wordpix Aug 2013 #22

Unfortunately, congress can not change their salary . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #25

True, they can't change their salary THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM US. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #27

How convenient. bvar22 Aug 2013 #49

Democratic economy summit. MOAR COSTCOS! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #12

This is where the righties are coming from... malthaussen Aug 2013 #14

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #16

+1000 At the Jobs for Justice Rally in KC last week, I heard from fast food workers, including.... LongTomH Aug 2013 #52

Why isn't minimum wage based on cost of living B2G Aug 2013 #17

Great point. dman85 Aug 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Aug 2013 #21

Maybe it would help to stop signing let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries "free trade" agreements. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #26

STOP IT! woo me with science Aug 2013 #31

Actually, things are utterly hopeless. But I don't care. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #34

Well, I meant helplessness re: the things you mentioned, woo me with science Aug 2013 #36

I am up for a job in IT and listed $55k as my salary requirement. Myrina Aug 2013 #32

You are in IT? When he seeks to hire a H-1B replacment, I hope that you have a contract with a AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #35

I know, right? Myrina Aug 2013 #39

Whatever you do, always work towards getting a written employment contract with a clause AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #41

And five years earlier they were earning $70K or more. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #53

Yes, this is the problem Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #33

They won't HAVE to raise prices, they WANT to raise prices. . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #38

They most certainly will have to raise prices Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #72

Currently . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #86

The profiteers won't be happy til working people once again live like this HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #51

I fully support a living wage for fast food workers Bake Aug 2013 #42

I know a guy who is a supervisor for an elevator company here in Vegas.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #56

This is the source of so many problems shenmue Aug 2013 #60

but then they wouldnt be desperate and scared sigmasix Aug 2013 #76

we got soul on the dole, we don't take no shit from the benefit Divine Discontent Aug 2013 #71

AND the rent is too damn high!!! nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #73

. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #75

Workers need to stop waiting around for politicians to flick a crumb off their table. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #77

my my, the chamber of commerce types are out in droves. mopinko Aug 2013 #81

americans need to understand this duality pasto76 Aug 2013 #83

Maybe if they were paid better, they would n2doc Aug 2013 #84

kick woo me with science Aug 2013 #87

A low minimum wage would be okay if it was a starting point. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #89