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I thought we already knew all about it. tblue Aug 2013 #1
Hey if some people didn't keep up with current events in 2006 arely staircase Aug 2013 #17
Or 2013 when this is now being discussed Aerows Aug 2013 #21
I just enjoy the "wait I thought this was old news" sarcastic posts arely staircase Aug 2013 #26
It IS new news now that it has been broken Aerows Aug 2013 #30
which has nothing to do with snowden nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #36
And the consequences are the same, regardless if Obama broke the news. n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #37
No, we did not know till now that FISA was stretching interpretations of the law Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #39
we knew they were allowing metadata collection as per their arely staircase Aug 2013 #40
We still do not know how far they stretched their interpretation of the law so your Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #41
so then what did snowden tell us that was new? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #42
highlighted what a huge bunch of us Aerows Aug 2013 #43
for the record - I don't care for it either and am glad it is finally being discussed arely staircase Aug 2013 #44
Mostly just being disgusted with Snowden because Aerows Aug 2013 #45
he did right in front of the whole world when he was in china arely staircase Aug 2013 #47
I don't know that "draining of laptops" happened Aerows Aug 2013 #51
well we know he told the chinese about specific NSA spying on China arely staircase Aug 2013 #54
No, actually we don't know that Aerows Aug 2013 #57
ok for the gazillianth time arely staircase Aug 2013 #63
You just stated telecomms didn't have enough storage space Aerows Aug 2013 #65
to keep a fucking recording of every conversation? arely staircase Aug 2013 #67
Hi Aerows Aug 2013 #69
I think you aren't really that naive Aerows Aug 2013 #70
And for the gazillianth time, the FSB Aerows Aug 2013 #68
What "metadata" are you referring to? You have no idea! It's classified! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #46
this arely staircase Aug 2013 #50
That's pretty general. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #52
you think they are recording every american's phone conversation? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #55
If the data exist at the telecoms MNBrewer Aug 2013 #58
you think telecoms have that storage capability? arely staircase Aug 2013 #59
LMAO Aerows Aug 2013 #61
I think that ship has sailed. n/t djean111 Aug 2013 #2
Oh, FFS. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #3
You have to give them a little bit of sweetness Aerows Aug 2013 #22
Betcha it uses cookies and tracks your IP address krispos42 Aug 2013 #4
I hear it will be able to read minds. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #5
So... krispos42 Aug 2013 #15
lol ... and then they'll use it against you. nt JoePhilly Aug 2013 #16
In votes. n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #25
I hear it will be able to read minds Aerows Aug 2013 #23
it will kill us with drones nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #18
Or kill us at the polls n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #24
unlikely nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #34
I hope not Aerows Aug 2013 #35
Credability tazkcmo Aug 2013 #6
So what the hell do you suggest, then? (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #19
Don't spy on people without probable cause Aerows Aug 2013 #27
We've seen no evidence the 4th Amendment is being violated Recursion Aug 2013 #28
You addressed nothing Aerows Aug 2013 #32
Is this from the Onion? Rex Aug 2013 #7
I figured Recursion Aug 2013 #20
You did? Rex Aug 2013 #31
They spelled "propaganda" wrong. woo me with science Aug 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #9
They have change.gov siting around, might as well use it. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #10
LOL. This is rich PSPS Aug 2013 #11
Great. The regime will allow us to discuss secrecy but not what's being kept secret. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #12
Bet it'll just be a black page with no text or images on it AndyA Aug 2013 #13
Hi, Joe Smith here, are you spying on me? Well Mr. Smith... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #14
Appropriately scathing marions ghost Aug 2013 #33
Is it a transparency website or an IQ test for naive people. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #29
No Trust marions ghost Aug 2013 #38
Yeah, it's going to be www.neutronium.gov Fumesucker Aug 2013 #48
Okay.... Autumn Aug 2013 #49
Will there be coloring pages? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #53
The Guardian is working on the coloring book version for their audience. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #56
Yeah. We all know the dumbass reputation the Guardian has. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #60
I'm beginning to think there are a few in this thread Aerows Aug 2013 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author deenamathew Dec 2014 #72
Aww, that's gonna piss off greenwald, the guardian, and snowden.. I'm sure Cha Aug 2013 #62
This is transparent PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #66
If Clapper has anything to say about it: neverforget Aug 2013 #71
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