Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man [View all]thucythucy
(9,064 posts)157. But if there are only two people in a given encounter
and one of them is dead, how can you possibly prove it wasn't "a justifiable use of force?"
I can shoot you on the street, and as long as there are no witnesses, I can say anything I want about how you were about to stab me with the knife I "thought" you had, or beat me with the cane you use to walk, or use some fancy karate moves to shatter my windpipe. You're DEAD, so your side of the story will never be heard.
Again, I ask, under such a scenario, how can the state possibly prove I wasn't in fear of my life, and thus justifed in shooting you dead?
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
209 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Thanks, Stand Your Ground! No homicide charges for teen who shot, killed man [View all]
Robb
Aug 2013
OP
waved a stick at the teens. one ran away. the other could have, but didn't. waving a stick
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#13
swinging and waving are the same action. the other teen was able to run away from the big
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#103
in principle i see a value of 'reasonable force' - that's not what i'm seeing
samsingh
Aug 2013
#149
SYG lowers the threshold for using deadly violence. It is a fucking bad law.
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#101
syg = blacks can kills blacks & whites can kill blacks. but blacks killing whites? less likely.
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#11
What's to prevent the exact same scenario from occurring under duty to retreat?
Bazinga
Aug 2013
#158
And the post that rl6214 responded to didn't contain references in publications.
Bazinga
Aug 2013
#204
Um, the raw numbers tell a different story, you don't get to make up your own facts
snooper2
Aug 2013
#200
The blog comes from your link. It is where the 11-1 figure originally comes from
hack89
Aug 2013
#60
So you do have time to go back to your original thread and show me the hard numbers
hack89
Aug 2013
#86
Some guy said ill make him trayvon 2. Some kid said f$ck you and turned the system against itself
Township75
Aug 2013
#144
I dream of an American where once again sticking wielding maniacs can safely assault teens.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#48
The link says he's going to be charged for illegal possession. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2013
#120
Awful example. A "choir director" who attacked children with a large stick?
DirkGently
Aug 2013
#132
Here's how Justice Holmes analyized self-defense in 1921 in the Brown case:
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#154
At what kind of church was he a choir director? Was it an anti-gay church?
Freddie Stubbs
Aug 2013
#195