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blackspade

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20. The point is that it could end up that way.

Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:36 PM

Aug 2013

It is not false equivalency to warn folks about what could happen if secret laws, court decisions, and dragnet data collection continues unchecked.

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Former Stasi Reaction to NSA “You know, for us, this would have been a dream come true” [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

The Stasi WERE the terrorists. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #1

Yes. That's the point. nt delrem Aug 2013 #9

The STASI were a state organization KarKar Aug 2013 #37

I'll trust his opinion, and appreciate his honesty . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #2

And the defenders get butthurt when the NSA's compared to the Stasi... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #3

+ 1000 - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black - Hurts When The Game Is Over And The Cheer Leading Ends cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4

No, intelligent people get offended because it's hyperbole. Just Saying Aug 2013 #8

So substituting computers for human operatives makes it peachy keen eridani Aug 2013 #14

I don't know how anyone can have knowledge of what the Stasi was and did Just Saying Aug 2013 #15

I'll bet that Stasi didn't start out big eridani Aug 2013 #16

Now it's the Holocaust? Just Saying Aug 2013 #21

You are right about it not being tolerated. Exactly why do you think so many eridani Aug 2013 #25

The NSA has tech the Stasi did not. They don't NEED 1 in 7 narking tkmorris Aug 2013 #17

The NSA has no authority to spy on citizens Just Saying Aug 2013 #22

Do you REALLY believe that? DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #27

I agree the Patriot Act never should have passed or continued. Just Saying Aug 2013 #49

Without saying too much DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #50

Of course the technology is better than it was 20-50 years ago. Just Saying Aug 2013 #54

To paraphrase Governor Tarkin from "Star Wars"... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #65

Actually there is and has been some blowback on journalists eilen Aug 2013 #55

Who, when and how? Just Saying Aug 2013 #57

And just look at these replies. Do you have any doubt what these people would do under Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #34

Like we haven't figured out we can replace people with computers... dkf Aug 2013 #53

"Snowden and his allies cannot point to a single instance... Jerry442 Aug 2013 #19

I'm just not that conspiratorial. Just Saying Aug 2013 #24

Thats interesting. quakerboy Aug 2013 #29

Like others on this thread, you're comparing the NSA Just Saying Aug 2013 #48

Actually, Im not comparing anything except those two numbers, which I found coincidentally similar quakerboy Aug 2013 #62

Actually, the Stasi were gentle by comparison in many respects, at least toward the end. David__77 Aug 2013 #32

First off, you're comparing how we are dealing with prisoners of war Just Saying Aug 2013 #47

I'm aware of the Stasi techniques. David__77 Aug 2013 #59

Rather than 1 out of 73 - we've got 100% surveillance and a ONE PARTY SURVEILLANCE STATE. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #39

The final nail in that coffin was the Patriot Act DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #41

You're completely exaggerating the situation. Just Saying Aug 2013 #46

Funny how they won't even tell us "what is actually happening." And they LIE when they do chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #61

Worth a read...two cool heads are included at the end BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #5

k and r nashville_brook Aug 2013 #6

For THEM it's incomprehensible. DevonRex Aug 2013 #7

Exactly. It really makes DU look bad, which I believe is the point. tridim Aug 2013 #11

What is this "makes 'DU' look bad" stuff? David__77 Aug 2013 #33

This forum has never been about praising Russia as a beacon of freedom. tridim Aug 2013 #36

Who exactly is "praising Russia as a beacon of freedom?" DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #43

No one is. It is a BS statement. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #64

Umm.. J Edgar Hoover had official Washington terrified of his dossiers on them Fumesucker Aug 2013 #12

Convenient lapses of memory and comprehension seem to plague a certain group here. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #35

I find their naiveté shocking and depressing both. nt stillwaiting Aug 2013 #45

The point is that it could end up that way. blackspade Aug 2013 #20

"The U.S. was never that way." Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #30

How original. A "good German" reference. DevonRex Aug 2013 #31

Don't you have a short memory KarKar Aug 2013 #38

US foreign policy is pretty sick KarKar Aug 2013 #40

K&R DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #42

I always scoffed at the RW claim that "liberals hate America". JoePhilly Aug 2013 #51

+1 Just Saying Aug 2013 #52

Yes. DevonRex Aug 2013 #60

Yep. KNR. DirkGently Aug 2013 #10

but, but, "it can't/won't happen here!!!" the apologists would say stupidicus Aug 2013 #13

last year it was "he's loved abroad where his FP is conducted, not like you soft ingrates" MisterP Aug 2013 #56

lol stupidicus Aug 2013 #63

Yeah, but his girlfriend is probably a pole dancer. closeupready Aug 2013 #18

And this is *not* the only comparison coming out of Germany, woo me with science Aug 2013 #23

Too bad you're past retirement age, Colonel. The US is looking for capable men these days.. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #26

Imagine that gopiscrap Aug 2013 #28

'height of naivete to think that once collected this information won’t be used' markiv Aug 2013 #44

That is exactly the point the defenders fail to get. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #58