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The Stasi WERE the terrorists. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #1
Yes. That's the point. nt delrem Aug 2013 #9
The STASI were a state organization KarKar Aug 2013 #37
I'll trust his opinion, and appreciate his honesty . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #2
And the defenders get butthurt when the NSA's compared to the Stasi... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #3
+ 1000 - The Pot Calling The Kettle Black - Hurts When The Game Is Over And The Cheer Leading Ends cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4
No, intelligent people get offended because it's hyperbole. Just Saying Aug 2013 #8
So substituting computers for human operatives makes it peachy keen eridani Aug 2013 #14
I don't know how anyone can have knowledge of what the Stasi was and did Just Saying Aug 2013 #15
I'll bet that Stasi didn't start out big eridani Aug 2013 #16
Now it's the Holocaust? Just Saying Aug 2013 #21
You are right about it not being tolerated. Exactly why do you think so many eridani Aug 2013 #25
The NSA has tech the Stasi did not. They don't NEED 1 in 7 narking tkmorris Aug 2013 #17
The NSA has no authority to spy on citizens Just Saying Aug 2013 #22
Do you REALLY believe that? DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #27
I agree the Patriot Act never should have passed or continued. Just Saying Aug 2013 #49
Without saying too much DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #50
Of course the technology is better than it was 20-50 years ago. Just Saying Aug 2013 #54
To paraphrase Governor Tarkin from "Star Wars"... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #65
Actually there is and has been some blowback on journalists eilen Aug 2013 #55
Who, when and how? Just Saying Aug 2013 #57
And just look at these replies. Do you have any doubt what these people would do under Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #34
Like we haven't figured out we can replace people with computers... dkf Aug 2013 #53
"Snowden and his allies cannot point to a single instance... Jerry442 Aug 2013 #19
I'm just not that conspiratorial. Just Saying Aug 2013 #24
Thats interesting. quakerboy Aug 2013 #29
Like others on this thread, you're comparing the NSA Just Saying Aug 2013 #48
Actually, Im not comparing anything except those two numbers, which I found coincidentally similar quakerboy Aug 2013 #62
Actually, the Stasi were gentle by comparison in many respects, at least toward the end. David__77 Aug 2013 #32
First off, you're comparing how we are dealing with prisoners of war Just Saying Aug 2013 #47
I'm aware of the Stasi techniques. David__77 Aug 2013 #59
Rather than 1 out of 73 - we've got 100% surveillance and a ONE PARTY SURVEILLANCE STATE. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #39
The final nail in that coffin was the Patriot Act DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #41
You're completely exaggerating the situation. Just Saying Aug 2013 #46
Funny how they won't even tell us "what is actually happening." And they LIE when they do chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #61
Worth a read...two cool heads are included at the end BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #5
k and r nashville_brook Aug 2013 #6
For THEM it's incomprehensible. DevonRex Aug 2013 #7
Exactly. It really makes DU look bad, which I believe is the point. tridim Aug 2013 #11
What is this "makes 'DU' look bad" stuff? David__77 Aug 2013 #33
This forum has never been about praising Russia as a beacon of freedom. tridim Aug 2013 #36
Who exactly is "praising Russia as a beacon of freedom?" DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #43
No one is. It is a BS statement. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #64
Umm.. J Edgar Hoover had official Washington terrified of his dossiers on them Fumesucker Aug 2013 #12
Convenient lapses of memory and comprehension seem to plague a certain group here. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #35
I find their naiveté shocking and depressing both. nt stillwaiting Aug 2013 #45
The point is that it could end up that way. blackspade Aug 2013 #20
"The U.S. was never that way." Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #30
How original. A "good German" reference. DevonRex Aug 2013 #31
Don't you have a short memory KarKar Aug 2013 #38
US foreign policy is pretty sick KarKar Aug 2013 #40
K&R DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #42
I always scoffed at the RW claim that "liberals hate America". JoePhilly Aug 2013 #51
+1 Just Saying Aug 2013 #52
Yes. DevonRex Aug 2013 #60
Yep. KNR. DirkGently Aug 2013 #10
but, but, "it can't/won't happen here!!!" the apologists would say stupidicus Aug 2013 #13
last year it was "he's loved abroad where his FP is conducted, not like you soft ingrates" MisterP Aug 2013 #56
lol stupidicus Aug 2013 #63
Yeah, but his girlfriend is probably a pole dancer. closeupready Aug 2013 #18
And this is *not* the only comparison coming out of Germany, woo me with science Aug 2013 #23
Too bad you're past retirement age, Colonel. The US is looking for capable men these days.. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #26
Imagine that gopiscrap Aug 2013 #28
'height of naivete to think that once collected this information won’t be used' markiv Aug 2013 #44
That is exactly the point the defenders fail to get. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #58
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