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21. that's kinda the point though

if you cannot defeat the big money in the primary, how do you expect to defeat the big money in the general?

The old standby of "if we just let Republicans win for a time, eventually there will be enough voters to get a progressive"

That hasn't exactly worked very well since 1999. We have taken huge giant strides backwards and have maybe 500,000 dead in Iraq thanks to THAT SNAFU.

And in order to get anything progressive into law, we apparently need 60 senators. And consider this
Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Missouri, Virginia, Indiana,West Virginia, Louisiana, and Alaska

There's 25 conservative states. Are we gonna elect 6 progressives in those states? And nevermind too that we currently have a Republican Senator from supposedly solid blue states like Illinois, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Maine, Ohio, Florida, Nevada, and Wisconsin.

And what about the House? Since 1994, Democrats have only controlled the House for a very brief span from 2006-2010. That's 20 years with 16 years of Republican control. Do you think all those Republicans are getting elected and re-elected because the voting public wants more liberal representation?

Winning those election things is kinda important and my side has not been doing it. The conservative side has. Letting that side win more, just gives them more control over the narrative.