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ProSense

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Sat Aug 17, 2013, 05:51 PM Aug 2013

Another NSA "Bombshell" Starts to Fizzle Out, as Greenwald Pushes Government Conspiracy Theory [View all]

Another NSA "Bombshell" Starts to Fizzle Out, as Greenwald Pushes Government Conspiracy Theory

by Reggid

Or: How Histrionics and Hysteria Continue to Drive A Misleading Narrative

As has been discussed in numerous diaries over the last two days, a Washington Post article reported on Thursday that the NSA "broke privacy rules thousands of times" per year, according to a May, 2012, audit covering several intelligence analysis facilities over the course a year, covering the last 3 quarters of 2011 and the first quarter of 2012.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-broke-privacy-rules-thousands-of-times-per-year-audit-finds/2013/08/15/3310e554-05ca-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html

This report has been seized by many purportedly as evidence of a lack of oversight over a supposedly out-of-control NSA which is allegedly abusing its programs to spy illegally on Americans at will.

But looking past all the usual histrionics, hyperbole, and gross exaggerations, what do the report and the audit upon it which it was based actually show? As usual, once the initial hysteria dies down, when one gets past all the usual outrage porn, one discovers that the reality of the "violations" is actually far less sinister, and in fact much more mundane, than suggested in the article and the diaries it spawned here. Indeed, a careful reading of the actual details of the report beyond the hysterical headlines not only confirms that the "violations" were actually just mistakes and errors, most having little or no impact on Americans' communications at all, and representing only an infinitesimally tiny portion of the communications data processed by the faciliities at issue; but also confirms, contrary to the existing narrative, that there are numerous working safeguards in place. An actual close reading of the article and the audit document further demonstrates that there is zero evidence that any of the "violations" were willful or intentional, and confirms, once again, that there is still no evidence of any actual abuse of the programs, much less any policy of abuse.

A healthy dose of reality, in a super-sized cup, below the fold.

Part I: In Which the "Privacy Violations" are Grossly Exaggerated and Over-Hyped

The WaPo report goes to great length to note that the audit reflects 2,776 separate incidents amounting to "violations" of one privacy rule or another. But we have now learned, based on a more detailed analysis of the "violations" by the New York Times, that more than 2/3 of those "violations" consisted entirely of the programs monitoring the foreign communications of foreign targets as they are authorized to do, but failing to recognize when those foreign targets had actually come to the U.S. and brought their foreign cellphones with them. So, in over 1,900 cases, the "violations" had zero to do with Americans' communications at all, but rather resulted solely from a geographic anomaly not picked up by the computer programs, which impacted otherwise perfectly legal, authorized surveillance of foreign calls:

The largest number of episodes — 1,904 — appeared to be “roamers,” in which a foreigner whose cellphone was being wiretapped without a warrant came to the United States, where individual warrants are required.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/us/nsa-often-broke-rules-on-privacy-audit-shows.html

Which actually, therefore, leaves less than 900 total incidents of errors and mistakes causing inadvertent over-reach across numerous facilities over an entire year -- less than 3 per day among thousands and thousands of analysts and billions and billions of pieces of data! Hardly the doomsday scenario pushed in the WaPo article, by Greenwald, and in various diaries here.

But wait, there's more (or less, in fact). It turns out, again per the more thorough and less histrionic anlysis by the NYT, that the "202"/"20" area code/nation code mix-up is likewise much less alarming than initially suggested by the WaPo article and in diaries and comments here. Indeed, it turns out that when the 202 area code was used instead of the 20 nation code, only metadata and not the calls themselves were collected:

In one case in 2008 . . . the system collected metadata logs about a “large number” of calls dialed from Washington – something it was already doing through a different program – because of a programming error mixing up the district’s area code, 202, with the international dialing code of Egypt, 20.

So once again, we see that this supposedly "serious" and "scary" incident turns out to be essentially no incident at all. In this case, there really is no there there, as the error merely resulted in the programs doing what the NSA was already separately authorized by the FISC to do -- collect telephone metadata. But that apparently didn't stop the WaPo and numerous diaries and comments here from hyping this non-incident into a mountain of spying-on-Americans outrage porn:

Some language in the Washington Post story requires a bit of parsing as well. On page one, there is mention of a computer mix-up where Egypt’s calling code (20) is accidentally input as DC’s area code (202), resulting in a “large number” of calls being “intercepted.” However, on page four, the incident is clarified to have only involved collecting the metadata about those calls, and not their content — a key distinction.

This last bit is key. Charlie Savage, a fantastic reporter at the New York Times who’s done wonders in reporting on intelligence issues, had to correct his story when he thought the mention of “intercept” on page one meant “listen to.” Slippery language in reporting — a sadly common trend in a lot of the coverage of the NSA leaks — leads to assumptions that tend to be false. Metadata is not content, and is treated differently under the law and Supreme Court precedent, and that’s an important thing to keep in mind.

http://joshuafoust.com/nsa-rule-violations-matter-but-arent-severe/

And here we see the typical pattern from all of these NSA stories: Lead with the outrageous headline, then hype the scary story, but bury the contradictory clarifications, caveats, and actual facts pages later. And in this case, the factual clarification really matters: The scary-sounding area-code mix-up did not, as widely claimed, result in any eavesdropping on Americans' communications; instead, it merely resulted in the gathering of phone metadata, which the NSA was already doing anyway pursuant to FISC authorization.

Oh, but wait, there's still more (again, actually less)! Just as the WaPo article and its progeny over-hyped the number of of actual incidents having any impact at all on domestic communications, the claim that similar "thousands of violations" occur "each year" is completely unsupported by anything in the audit or any other document cited in the WaPo report. As noted above, and as appears on the face of the audit, it covers a period of one year. So, for that one yearlong period, from the 2Q 2011 through 1Q 2012, there were 2,776 total incidents at the various facilities covered by the audit. But that figure includes the 1900+ foreign roaming non-incidents. So, where does the report get the claim that there are "thousands" of incidents each and every other year, too? Nowhere -- the report doesn't cite any information for any other year, so that claim is apparently based purely and entirely on assumption and speculation. Now, it may turn out that other years have similar error rates as 2Q 2011 - 1Q 2012, but we don't know that, and the WaPo article provides no information to suggest that they know it, either. The article provides no support for the claim at all -- it apparently just makes an assumption and then engages in speculation, yet states its unsubstantiated claim as a fact anyway.

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Part III: In Which Glenn Greenwald Goes Off The Rails

So, given all the foregoing fundamental flaws and misleading claims in the latest NSA "story" and The Narrative, how does the poster-boy for fundamentally flawed and misleading NSA reporting, Glenn Greenwald, respond to the fact that it was the NSA's system and audit safeguards and oversight which caught and identified the incidents of over-reach? If you guessed, "Come up with a way to blame the government and push a conspiracy theory instead of acknowledging that it was NSA system and audit safeguards that caught and documented the errors and mistakes," then you're correct!

Faced with the knowledge that it was, in fact, the NSA itself which caught all of these incidents and thoroughly documented them through an audit, and it was, in fact, the carrying out and documenting of that audit that even allowed knowledge of the incidents to come to light, how does Greenwald spin the existence of the audit? As a government conspiracy, naturally:


<...>



Good grief. Really, Glenn? If these were supposed to be secret "internal" audits, then why would they be white-washed? Why would they "white-wash" something that no one was supposedly ever supposed to see? And if it's a cover-up, then why would the audit look so bad, at least on its face? If the NSA was secretly trying to abuse the programs and cover up any such abuse, then why would they identifyy and document more than 2,700 separate incidents? If they were were really trying to abuse the programs and get away with it, why document any actual incidents of over-reach at all, much less 2,700 of them? And why, as the article notes, would the DOJ self-report incidents of over-reach to the FISC? As usual, Greenwald's anti-government hysteria makes no sense. But as we know, with Greenwald, if something doesn't fit The Narrative, it must be ignored or explained away, and for Glenn, government conspiracy is always an easy fall-back position. Like I said, good grief.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/17/1231839/-Another-NSA-Bombshell-Starts-to-Fizzle-Out-as-Greenwald-Pushes-Government-Conspiracy-Theory

It's all hype
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Ever More Character Assassination cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1
Of course. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #14
res ipsa loquitur cantbeserious Aug 2013 #64
More pathetic every day. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #21
The NSA like the rest of the gov't lies in reports all the time. Nobody's deceived except Congress leveymg Aug 2013 #38
Exactly. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #43
Here's a tip.. "eom" is written in the subject line so we don't click on Cha Aug 2013 #88
We All Have Different Styles cantbeserious Aug 2013 #96
bom...and not all styles are logical...eom Purrfessor Aug 2013 #111
Sorry, it's not a "style" it's a courtesy to the members of the board. n/m Cha Aug 2013 #121
Aren't there rules against SPAMMING this forum? Th1onein Aug 2013 #126
That's exactly what it is. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #131
The Same Could Be Said For The OP cantbeserious Aug 2013 #170
Uh, that's what I'm saying. Th1onein Aug 2013 #171
Great. Nothing to see here. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #2
Great Comeback cantbeserious Aug 2013 #3
Thanks 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #9
what is up with the IGNORE function? Skittles Aug 2013 #39
Mine's been working fine 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #79
I should not be seeing this thread Skittles Aug 2013 #118
The charges against Snowden will stick, they have evidence of his wrong doing, this does not clear Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #10
"IT'S ALL HYPE' <-- Your transparent ruse to divert attention from illegal gov't spying 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #16
If you've ever worked in IT, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #17
Welcome to DU. Glad to see you have made yourself right at home nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #22
Nope, it is hype Snowden has been charged with espionage, the only hype I read are those who Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #48
You didn't see the Presidents press conference ? Chuck Toads query ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #81
the hype has got no relation to Theft of classified material. Whisp Aug 2013 #19
And Booz-Allen is violating the FISA Laws and the Constitution. No wiggle room. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #24
Except they're not. jeff47 Aug 2013 #29
It's amazing that so many people who are supposedly "paying attention" jeff47 Aug 2013 #28
That's because a lot of people Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #57
Totally lying is a way around " pesky facts " unless inconveniently some traitor orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #115
The " CASE " is exposing the apparatus of Fascism, and the power of orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #114
No, it isn't. jeff47 Aug 2013 #130
Didn't say " Spying " I said " Power " as far as access and dispensing information . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #134
There is not much power in installing an Operating System. jeff47 Aug 2013 #136
Nice try. Person who stole still stole. -nt CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #45
Nothing to see here, folks, move along! Union Scribe Aug 2013 #4
lol - well done ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #15
Cool, I'll add that to the list too. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #5
The NYT article was great. This is a wonderful summary of it. nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #8
The NYT article looked at the facts. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #83
I wonder why the factual articles never come out first. DevonRex Aug 2013 #84
Because Hyperbole is easy Egnever Aug 2013 #93
Again, thanks for the information, I looked at the article which contained a chart of the audit. It Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #6
That is THE best analysis of the idiotic WaPo report. And LOL at GG. DevonRex Aug 2013 #7
K & R Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #11
I love that tweet. ProSense Aug 2013 #18
"Everybody loves a clown so why don't you?" Why, ProSense, Why???? DevonRex Aug 2013 #25
Lead with the outrageous headline... hype the scary story, but bury the contradictory...actual facts Hekate Aug 2013 #85
Yes. Same pattern every single time. Price of the information seems to be DevonRex Aug 2013 #90
The assumption is that the tens of millions of "non-violations" were all OK? kentuck Aug 2013 #12
And it's not clear what may be the scope of those 2,776 violations. Maedhros Aug 2013 #35
Tens of millions of what? Queries on foreign data? randome Aug 2013 #50
Whose responsibilty to show evidence or intent? kentuck Aug 2013 #56
And how would they show that? randome Aug 2013 #59
Why do we have a free press? kentuck Aug 2013 #69
So let the Press 'tour the facilities'? randome Aug 2013 #74
Let the Congress "tour the facilities". kentuck Aug 2013 #108
Exactly what good would that do? jmowreader Aug 2013 #169
k&r. BenzoDia Aug 2013 #13
no Whisp Aug 2013 #20
Like this~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #34
Like That! Whisp Aug 2013 #36
no truth for conspiracy mongers sigmasix Aug 2013 #103
The Daily Propaganda AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #23
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #26
Correct me if I got this wrong. The NSA says that most of the thousands of rhett o rick Aug 2013 #27
Ok. jeff47 Aug 2013 #33
But you are incorrect in stating that the documents show that U.S. citizens are not being surveilled Maedhros Aug 2013 #40
You're conflating multiple programs. jeff47 Aug 2013 #139
Maybe the word "spying" is getting in your way. The NSA has admitted to collecting data rhett o rick Aug 2013 #60
You're close to accurate. jeff47 Aug 2013 #135
Here's the lastest....a good refresher course: snappyturtle Aug 2013 #133
And if you actually read beyond those bullet points jeff47 Aug 2013 #137
Yes I did...did you? You must be a speed reader if you snappyturtle Aug 2013 #140
Do I have to link the definition of "summary" for you? jeff47 Aug 2013 #141
That's the reason I used "latest" in my subject line. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #142
So you claim "Round-up" is somehow different than "Summary" jeff47 Aug 2013 #174
How, as an "anti-authoritarian," do you ever expect to trust Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #42
I think the only 'transparency and oversight' some here will accept... randome Aug 2013 #52
You are once again wrong in predicting what the anti-authoritarians want. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #73
Booz-Allen provides IT support. They don't have access to personal data. randome Aug 2013 #76
You claim "it's clear that Snowden did not"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #89
We would not be having this debate if Snowden showed proof he could access personal data. randome Aug 2013 #100
We would not be having this debate... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #105
Gen Clapper admitted to having a "library" of data. He said they didnt look at the data rhett o rick Aug 2013 #120
You can not be series. We contracted with Booz-Allen for $56 billion dollars to reset passwords? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #119
+1 n/r iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #63
Thanks for asking. I am anti-authoritarian not anti-authority. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #70
Your definitions are suspect. Your passing them around here at DU is laughable. Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #77
Not at all but nice try. Authoritarians shouted out as soon as Snowden revealed that the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #82
I want an honest investigation and strong oversight. By your def, I'm an anti-authoritarian. Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #104
'non-anti-authoritarians' iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #62
kick to the Fizzle! burnodo Aug 2013 #30
Oh, Glenn, you rascal... baronjake Aug 2013 #31
10-15 years from now Iliyah Aug 2013 #32
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #37
The world in your image is turning backward HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #92
K&R! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #41
Still more histrionics about histrionics? wtmusic Aug 2013 #44
The defenders have been debriefed and armed with the proper response. mick063 Aug 2013 #46
So,. hysteria, misleading narrative, histrionics, hyperbole, gross exaggerations, hysteria, Civilization2 Aug 2013 #47
No, I believe the OP is pointing out that this particular story is rubbish. randome Aug 2013 #51
Focus on what,. the swamp gas, the reflection off a jet,. the OP links to a lame attack on reality; Civilization2 Aug 2013 #53
The OP is about one particular story. That initial story was rubbish. randome Aug 2013 #55
not just amok grasswire Aug 2013 #66
Nah, don't sweat the small stuff...while the 4a people are screaming about what COULD be happening uponit7771 Aug 2013 #58
You seem to have lost your patience with S&G antics. randome Aug 2013 #68
A Fool and reality are soon parted. n/t fasttense Aug 2013 #49
Cold But Fair, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2013 #54
They villified Smedley Butler for hurting bsiness . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #61
The USA public pretty much are Iliyah Aug 2013 #65
great article. thank you Dustin DeWinde Aug 2013 #67
Like Fascism, Right ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #71
Apparently we should not discuss NSA spying... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #91
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #99
Ooooh, someone's got a burr under their saddle... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #106
The NSA scandal may be inconvenient for the Administration, Maedhros Aug 2013 #109
Ha Ha on your ta ta 160er, you'll last 2 minutes here . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #117
Results of Jury decision Th1onein Aug 2013 #129
I would have voted Hide it, Thanks . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #132
"If these were supposed to be secret "internal" audits..." Why were they "secret" if so innocent? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #72
"Reggid" looks like a doppelganger. rug Aug 2013 #75
In a previous post that apparently ruffled some feathers on a different thread Maedhros Aug 2013 #107
Are you serious? ProSense Aug 2013 #153
Good find... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #151
THANK GOD! Now, can we let the DEA get back to what it does best? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #78
Liars never prosper. Glenn's cableknit sweater of bullshit is unraveling. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #80
Sits behind bars for what exactly? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #127
Just repeat after me... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #86
Leave Greenwald Alone!!... SidDithers Aug 2013 #87
2006 called. Bonobo Aug 2013 #98
Wyden and Udall say we've only seen the tip of the iceberg. So yes, they think everything dkf Aug 2013 #94
You know what else Wyden said? ProSense Aug 2013 #101
You are so missing the bigger Picture. dkf Aug 2013 #110
No, I'm not. ProSense Aug 2013 #112
They haven't gone though the courts yet because Obama has been using the fig leaf of state secrets. dkf Aug 2013 #113
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #116
So you acknowledge that it hasn't been declared unconstitutional ProSense Aug 2013 #122
YET. But it is obviously so. They are relying on loopholes to keep it from Supreme Court scrutiny. dkf Aug 2013 #123
That's some theory ProSense Aug 2013 #124
Uh yeah...that's what SOD does. dkf Aug 2013 #125
The SOD ProSense Aug 2013 #128
health records spying....coming soon ..nt quadrature Aug 2013 #95
The FISA chief judge can't verify that the "inadvertent" incident were inadvertent David Krout Aug 2013 #97
What does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #102
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #138
That has nothing to do with the OP ProSense Aug 2013 #143
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #144
No it doesn't, and ProSense Aug 2013 #145
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #146
Are you having trouble understanding the point of the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #147
Just so you know ProSense Aug 2013 #148
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #149
You sent me a weird PM and alerted the text of your PM? Did you think you could hide? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #150
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #152
You've been here a day and are already using the label "apologist" ProSense Aug 2013 #155
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #165
"Welcome to my ignore list, and... enjoy your stay. " ProSense Aug 2013 #166
Swing and a miss.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #158
I suspect ProSense Aug 2013 #160
And a pizza. ProSense Aug 2013 #172
Reminds me of this person... one_voice Aug 2013 #167
It disrupted poorly ProSense Aug 2013 #168
This is really odd, but is there anything that President Obama has done (or not done) that you madinmaryland Aug 2013 #154
Yeah, that is "really odd." It appears to be deflection. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #156
So are you not going to answer a simple question? madinmaryland Aug 2013 #157
No, I'm not. Your question is an attempt to deflect from the OP. ProSense Aug 2013 #159
So you are not willing to say there is anything that President Obama has done (or not done) madinmaryland Aug 2013 #161
See my previous response. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #162
I saw your previous response, and yet you continue to avoid my question. It is a very simple one. madinmaryland Aug 2013 #163
Does the word "no" mean something different to you? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #164
"How Histrionics and Hysteria Continue to Drive A Misleading Narrative" and it Cha Aug 2013 #173
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #175
Too late. The bombshell already exploded. Only thing fizzling is the rubble and ashes. nt GoneFishin Aug 2013 #176
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