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Ever More Character Assassination cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1
Of course. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #14
res ipsa loquitur cantbeserious Aug 2013 #64
More pathetic every day. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #21
The NSA like the rest of the gov't lies in reports all the time. Nobody's deceived except Congress leveymg Aug 2013 #38
Exactly. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #43
Here's a tip.. "eom" is written in the subject line so we don't click on Cha Aug 2013 #88
We All Have Different Styles cantbeserious Aug 2013 #96
bom...and not all styles are logical...eom Purrfessor Aug 2013 #111
Sorry, it's not a "style" it's a courtesy to the members of the board. n/m Cha Aug 2013 #121
Aren't there rules against SPAMMING this forum? Th1onein Aug 2013 #126
That's exactly what it is. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #131
The Same Could Be Said For The OP cantbeserious Aug 2013 #170
Uh, that's what I'm saying. Th1onein Aug 2013 #171
Great. Nothing to see here. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #2
Great Comeback cantbeserious Aug 2013 #3
Thanks 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #9
what is up with the IGNORE function? Skittles Aug 2013 #39
Mine's been working fine 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #79
I should not be seeing this thread Skittles Aug 2013 #118
The charges against Snowden will stick, they have evidence of his wrong doing, this does not clear Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #10
"IT'S ALL HYPE' <-- Your transparent ruse to divert attention from illegal gov't spying 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #16
If you've ever worked in IT, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #17
Welcome to DU. Glad to see you have made yourself right at home nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #22
Nope, it is hype Snowden has been charged with espionage, the only hype I read are those who Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #48
You didn't see the Presidents press conference ? Chuck Toads query ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #81
the hype has got no relation to Theft of classified material. Whisp Aug 2013 #19
And Booz-Allen is violating the FISA Laws and the Constitution. No wiggle room. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #24
Except they're not. jeff47 Aug 2013 #29
It's amazing that so many people who are supposedly "paying attention" jeff47 Aug 2013 #28
That's because a lot of people Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #57
Totally lying is a way around " pesky facts " unless inconveniently some traitor orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #115
The " CASE " is exposing the apparatus of Fascism, and the power of orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #114
No, it isn't. jeff47 Aug 2013 #130
Didn't say " Spying " I said " Power " as far as access and dispensing information . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #134
There is not much power in installing an Operating System. jeff47 Aug 2013 #136
Nice try. Person who stole still stole. -nt CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #45
Nothing to see here, folks, move along! Union Scribe Aug 2013 #4
lol - well done ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #15
Cool, I'll add that to the list too. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #5
The NYT article was great. This is a wonderful summary of it. nt DevonRex Aug 2013 #8
The NYT article looked at the facts. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #83
I wonder why the factual articles never come out first. DevonRex Aug 2013 #84
Because Hyperbole is easy Egnever Aug 2013 #93
Again, thanks for the information, I looked at the article which contained a chart of the audit. It Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #6
That is THE best analysis of the idiotic WaPo report. And LOL at GG. DevonRex Aug 2013 #7
K & R Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #11
I love that tweet. ProSense Aug 2013 #18
"Everybody loves a clown so why don't you?" Why, ProSense, Why???? DevonRex Aug 2013 #25
Lead with the outrageous headline... hype the scary story, but bury the contradictory...actual facts Hekate Aug 2013 #85
Yes. Same pattern every single time. Price of the information seems to be DevonRex Aug 2013 #90
The assumption is that the tens of millions of "non-violations" were all OK? kentuck Aug 2013 #12
And it's not clear what may be the scope of those 2,776 violations. Maedhros Aug 2013 #35
Tens of millions of what? Queries on foreign data? randome Aug 2013 #50
Whose responsibilty to show evidence or intent? kentuck Aug 2013 #56
And how would they show that? randome Aug 2013 #59
Why do we have a free press? kentuck Aug 2013 #69
So let the Press 'tour the facilities'? randome Aug 2013 #74
Let the Congress "tour the facilities". kentuck Aug 2013 #108
Exactly what good would that do? jmowreader Aug 2013 #169
k&r. BenzoDia Aug 2013 #13
no Whisp Aug 2013 #20
Like this~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #34
Like That! Whisp Aug 2013 #36
no truth for conspiracy mongers sigmasix Aug 2013 #103
The Daily Propaganda AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #23
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #26
Correct me if I got this wrong. The NSA says that most of the thousands of rhett o rick Aug 2013 #27
Ok. jeff47 Aug 2013 #33
But you are incorrect in stating that the documents show that U.S. citizens are not being surveilled Maedhros Aug 2013 #40
You're conflating multiple programs. jeff47 Aug 2013 #139
Maybe the word "spying" is getting in your way. The NSA has admitted to collecting data rhett o rick Aug 2013 #60
You're close to accurate. jeff47 Aug 2013 #135
Here's the lastest....a good refresher course: snappyturtle Aug 2013 #133
And if you actually read beyond those bullet points jeff47 Aug 2013 #137
Yes I did...did you? You must be a speed reader if you snappyturtle Aug 2013 #140
Do I have to link the definition of "summary" for you? jeff47 Aug 2013 #141
That's the reason I used "latest" in my subject line. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #142
So you claim "Round-up" is somehow different than "Summary" jeff47 Aug 2013 #174
How, as an "anti-authoritarian," do you ever expect to trust Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #42
I think the only 'transparency and oversight' some here will accept... randome Aug 2013 #52
You are once again wrong in predicting what the anti-authoritarians want. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #73
Booz-Allen provides IT support. They don't have access to personal data. randome Aug 2013 #76
You claim "it's clear that Snowden did not"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #89
We would not be having this debate if Snowden showed proof he could access personal data. randome Aug 2013 #100
We would not be having this debate... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #105
Gen Clapper admitted to having a "library" of data. He said they didnt look at the data rhett o rick Aug 2013 #120
You can not be series. We contracted with Booz-Allen for $56 billion dollars to reset passwords? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #119
+1 n/r iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #63
Thanks for asking. I am anti-authoritarian not anti-authority. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #70
Your definitions are suspect. Your passing them around here at DU is laughable. Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #77
Not at all but nice try. Authoritarians shouted out as soon as Snowden revealed that the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #82
I want an honest investigation and strong oversight. By your def, I'm an anti-authoritarian. Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #104
'non-anti-authoritarians' iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #62
kick to the Fizzle! burnodo Aug 2013 #30
Oh, Glenn, you rascal... baronjake Aug 2013 #31
10-15 years from now Iliyah Aug 2013 #32
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #37
The world in your image is turning backward HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #92
K&R! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #41
Still more histrionics about histrionics? wtmusic Aug 2013 #44
The defenders have been debriefed and armed with the proper response. mick063 Aug 2013 #46
So,. hysteria, misleading narrative, histrionics, hyperbole, gross exaggerations, hysteria, Civilization2 Aug 2013 #47
No, I believe the OP is pointing out that this particular story is rubbish. randome Aug 2013 #51
Focus on what,. the swamp gas, the reflection off a jet,. the OP links to a lame attack on reality; Civilization2 Aug 2013 #53
The OP is about one particular story. That initial story was rubbish. randome Aug 2013 #55
not just amok grasswire Aug 2013 #66
Nah, don't sweat the small stuff...while the 4a people are screaming about what COULD be happening uponit7771 Aug 2013 #58
You seem to have lost your patience with S&G antics. randome Aug 2013 #68
A Fool and reality are soon parted. n/t fasttense Aug 2013 #49
Cold But Fair, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2013 #54
They villified Smedley Butler for hurting bsiness . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #61
The USA public pretty much are Iliyah Aug 2013 #65
great article. thank you Dustin DeWinde Aug 2013 #67
Like Fascism, Right ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #71
Apparently we should not discuss NSA spying... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #91
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Ooooh, someone's got a burr under their saddle... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #106
The NSA scandal may be inconvenient for the Administration, Maedhros Aug 2013 #109
Ha Ha on your ta ta 160er, you'll last 2 minutes here . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #117
Results of Jury decision Th1onein Aug 2013 #129
I would have voted Hide it, Thanks . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #132
"If these were supposed to be secret "internal" audits..." Why were they "secret" if so innocent? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #72
"Reggid" looks like a doppelganger. rug Aug 2013 #75
In a previous post that apparently ruffled some feathers on a different thread Maedhros Aug 2013 #107
Are you serious? ProSense Aug 2013 #153
Good find... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #151
THANK GOD! Now, can we let the DEA get back to what it does best? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #78
Liars never prosper. Glenn's cableknit sweater of bullshit is unraveling. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #80
Sits behind bars for what exactly? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #127
Just repeat after me... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #86
Leave Greenwald Alone!!... SidDithers Aug 2013 #87
2006 called. Bonobo Aug 2013 #98
Wyden and Udall say we've only seen the tip of the iceberg. So yes, they think everything dkf Aug 2013 #94
You know what else Wyden said? ProSense Aug 2013 #101
You are so missing the bigger Picture. dkf Aug 2013 #110
No, I'm not. ProSense Aug 2013 #112
They haven't gone though the courts yet because Obama has been using the fig leaf of state secrets. dkf Aug 2013 #113
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #116
So you acknowledge that it hasn't been declared unconstitutional ProSense Aug 2013 #122
YET. But it is obviously so. They are relying on loopholes to keep it from Supreme Court scrutiny. dkf Aug 2013 #123
That's some theory ProSense Aug 2013 #124
Uh yeah...that's what SOD does. dkf Aug 2013 #125
The SOD ProSense Aug 2013 #128
health records spying....coming soon ..nt quadrature Aug 2013 #95
The FISA chief judge can't verify that the "inadvertent" incident were inadvertent David Krout Aug 2013 #97
What does that have to do with the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #102
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That has nothing to do with the OP ProSense Aug 2013 #143
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No it doesn't, and ProSense Aug 2013 #145
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Are you having trouble understanding the point of the OP? ProSense Aug 2013 #147
Just so you know ProSense Aug 2013 #148
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You sent me a weird PM and alerted the text of your PM? Did you think you could hide? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #150
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You've been here a day and are already using the label "apologist" ProSense Aug 2013 #155
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"Welcome to my ignore list, and... enjoy your stay. " ProSense Aug 2013 #166
Swing and a miss.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #158
I suspect ProSense Aug 2013 #160
And a pizza. ProSense Aug 2013 #172
Reminds me of this person... one_voice Aug 2013 #167
It disrupted poorly ProSense Aug 2013 #168
This is really odd, but is there anything that President Obama has done (or not done) that you madinmaryland Aug 2013 #154
Yeah, that is "really odd." It appears to be deflection. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #156
So are you not going to answer a simple question? madinmaryland Aug 2013 #157
No, I'm not. Your question is an attempt to deflect from the OP. ProSense Aug 2013 #159
So you are not willing to say there is anything that President Obama has done (or not done) madinmaryland Aug 2013 #161
See my previous response. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #162
I saw your previous response, and yet you continue to avoid my question. It is a very simple one. madinmaryland Aug 2013 #163
Does the word "no" mean something different to you? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #164
"How Histrionics and Hysteria Continue to Drive A Misleading Narrative" and it Cha Aug 2013 #173
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #175
Too late. The bombshell already exploded. Only thing fizzling is the rubble and ashes. nt GoneFishin Aug 2013 #176
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