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former9thward

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60. The vote on the Postal Bill was unanimous.

Reply to ProSense (Reply #46)

Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:52 PM

Feb 2012

So Obama voted for it.

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Obama admin silent as USPS lays off 35,000 workers...with more layoffs to come [View all] brentspeak Feb 2012 OP

Once again the Republican's have gotten to this Administration! n/t teddy51 Feb 2012 #1

Once again it isnt R-cons vs. Democrats. It's the oligarchs vs. ThePeople. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #7

Agreed, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. n/t teddy51 Feb 2012 #8

It will not change until we change the system. stillwaiting Feb 2012 #57

"Harm reduction is my current goal" TBF Feb 2012 #116

Thanks for being awake. midnight Feb 2012 #52

Now we must get busy awakening a few million Americans. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #81

Only if you think waking up the bourgeoise is at all helpful ... TBF Feb 2012 #117

Who do you include in your definition of bourgeoise? I still think the working class needs a wakeup rhett o rick Feb 2012 #118

That's not the kind of wake-up call I was referring to. nt TBF Feb 2012 #120

Sorry, I am totally lost. And yes I am sober. At least for the next half hour. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #130

When you talked about oligarchs v. people you were definitely on the right track - TBF Feb 2012 #135

Thank you for the clarification. Withholding our labor isnt an option at this rhett o rick Feb 2012 #150

They'll just sell them somewhere else - TBF Feb 2012 #151

Collectively the American middle class still has a lot of capital. They want that capital. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #152

No, once again bipartisan neoliberalism supports short sighted vested interests and upward transfers PufPuf23 Feb 2012 #44

You are right it's the Republicans, but not what you think SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #62

Thanks for all those details. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #128

Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #2

It's a continuing downward spiral for many, but if the markets go up too many think this is RKP5637 Feb 2012 #3

Springfield, MO, where I live, is losing its processing center The Genealogist Feb 2012 #4

The funding requirement was done to force USPS into bankruptcy so the RKP5637 Feb 2012 #10

USPS will be gone in ten years, so what happens if they don't fund retiree benefits now? FarCenter Feb 2012 #26

Why would they be gone in 10 years, they can be competitive in similar things to RKP5637 Feb 2012 #27

They are unlikely to compete with FedEx and UPS FarCenter Feb 2012 #28

I had read at one time that another problem USPS has is having to deliver to every RKP5637 Feb 2012 #29

It is an unworkable hybrid of a government service and a private enterprise FarCenter Feb 2012 #56

USPS delivers many packages on behalf of both UPS and FedEx brentspeak Feb 2012 #141

Let's see. 75/10 = 7.5 years per year. New Yawker Feb 2012 #127

This is what I thought was the real reason that UPS is going bankrupt.It happened before Pres.. The Wielding Truth Feb 2012 #54

Internet killed usps Celebration Feb 2012 #5

Its not that he isn't aware. He helped sponsor the bill in 2006. JNathanK Feb 2012 #17

You ProSense Feb 2012 #46

The vote on the Postal Bill was unanimous. former9thward Feb 2012 #60

Up is down, and Obama is never wrong. bahrbearian Feb 2012 #64

Well ProSense Feb 2012 #67

It was ProSense Feb 2012 #65

OMG! You're kidding me! uranus is my home Feb 2012 #103

Paper mail is obsolete. FarCenter Feb 2012 #22

It should go directly into the recycling bin. That's what I do. RBInMaine Feb 2012 #70

Well, no it isn't They_Live Feb 2012 #75

"Just because it's obsolete for you doesn't make it so for everyone else." Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #107

Is is possible to email a package? brentspeak Feb 2012 #139

And you don't particularly strike me as someone who can be lumped in with "any" of "us". Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #144

With email you can also send photos, clippings, drawings, as attachments FarCenter Feb 2012 #109

This is NOT the way out of recession!. . . n/t annabanana Feb 2012 #6

Juan Gonzalez's research on the early US media showed EFerrari Feb 2012 #23

They lost newspapers because of the market. former9thward Feb 2012 #74

Sanders: Postal Service Plan ‘Deeply Flawed' ProSense Feb 2012 #9

K&R proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #129

Senators Support Saving the Postal Service ProSense Feb 2012 #11

Being that it was Democrats who helped make this happen... MrSlayer Feb 2012 #12

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #14

Waxman and Davis are not the ones responsible for the prefunding requirement brentspeak Feb 2012 #16

I guess I can't blame every one of them. JNathanK Feb 2012 #18

Well, this should all be a nice boon the private sector. I bet UPS and Fedex is funding Darrel Issa. JNathanK Feb 2012 #13

They closed distribution centers - consolidating sorting - not post offices bhikkhu Feb 2012 #15

Post office closings brentspeak Feb 2012 #20

What you linked to is post offices involved in a study SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #24

Many, if not all, are tring to avoid closure through cost cutting and efficiency measures bhikkhu Feb 2012 #25

Out of curiosity.... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2012 #19

Every month I still use the USPS for my bills nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #31

"2006 bill, if they did not have to do that, they'd be TURNING A PROFIT RIGHT NOW." SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #35

Actually the post service agrees with me nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #36

Do the people at the post office who agree with you SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #38

As I said independent groups nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #39

So it's not the USPS, SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #43

Last mile nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #66

I must thank you, you prompted my research SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #78

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #84

I write letters and pay bills by mail all the time. haele Feb 2012 #33

We do a lot of eBay and we ship just about everything USPS, except for some large and RKP5637 Feb 2012 #37

I send and receive mail on a consistent basis.. Fumesucker Feb 2012 #40

I still use snail mail. bvar22 Feb 2012 #58

One of my businesses.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #105

If you paid market rates, your shipping costs would triple? boppers Feb 2012 #123

No, the USPS is running at a major loss because of the prefunding requirement brentspeak Feb 2012 #146

I pay all my bills via the usps unapatriciated Feb 2012 #155

Bernie's got a bill "that's getting support and interest" to do away gateley Feb 2012 #21

Here's a link that talks about it ... RKP5637 Feb 2012 #30

Thank you! nt gateley Feb 2012 #99

Rural America and its many teabaggers do want to pay for maintaining this service level high density Feb 2012 #32

Where's the connection between rural areas and the Tea Party? brentspeak Feb 2012 #34

Lots of libs live in rural America MadHound Feb 2012 #50

This is insanity Oasis_ Feb 2012 #41

Wrong. The repukes did this. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #42

now now, don't bring fact into brent's campaign against obama... dionysus Feb 2012 #45

^Post of the Day^ Cutting through the lies about the situation with the USPS. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #55

That's correct, but all you did was repeat my own link brentspeak Feb 2012 #59

You should get your facts straight. former9thward Feb 2012 #63

WOW! Fudders are working new DU hard too uponit7771 Feb 2012 #148

The USPS isnt a jobs program... its a business. DCBob Feb 2012 #47

It's not a business, it's a public service necessary for a functioning society. jpgray Feb 2012 #48

It still needs to be run like a business to survive. DCBob Feb 2012 #51

Funny no one complains about military RIF's throwing thousands out of work. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #53

Tell me would you be able to pay your thirty year loan in two? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #68

Dumb comment. DCBob Feb 2012 #71

Really? How so? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #76

The Issa comment. for one thing. DCBob Feb 2012 #86

As chairman for ways and means nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #87

I dont closely follow the activities of that idiot. DCBob Feb 2012 #90

You mean center right corporatist dems nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #92

never mind.. DCBob Feb 2012 #94

Darrell Issa is a Republican, not a Democrat SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #96

I think most people here know who Issa is nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #98

What other businesses are artificially burdened with a bankrupting prefunding requirement? brentspeak Feb 2012 #61

Regardless they are still a bloated obsolete operation. DCBob Feb 2012 #72

Again you have no clue what you speak off nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #77

no clue??.. mail volume has dropped dramatically over the past 10 years. DCBob Feb 2012 #89

And package handling has gone up nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #91

Package handling volume is tiny compared to 1st class mail. DCBob Feb 2012 #93

Code for privatized. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #95

The USPS is not a business.. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #108

The post office is not mandated by the US Constitution FarCenter Feb 2012 #114

shame Sea-Dog Feb 2012 #49

With the internet and their pension costs, their cashflow is in a world of hurt. Something needs to RBInMaine Feb 2012 #69

Again, if they were not tp required to fund pensions nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #80

Wait ProSense Feb 2012 #73

Obama Didn't Hand-Select Him And Can't Fire Him Either, By Law? SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #83

Well, ProSense Feb 2012 #85

Classic misinformation from the OP. grantcart Feb 2012 #106

Oh, he understands. The intent is to geek tragedy Feb 2012 #122

Bingo, like to call this one a shit stirrer. Pisces Feb 2012 #126

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #143

As opposed to publishing blatant lies like claiming that Donahoe geek tragedy Feb 2012 #149

Are you insane??? I have not had hundreds of posts deleted and have not accused but maybe 2 people Pisces Feb 2012 #153

Obama has the power to stop postal closures girl gone mad Feb 2012 #110

No he doesn't and that is a law SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #112

You're wrong. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #131

Absolutely not wrong, that is talking about Appointees by the President SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #132

Crickets Swede Feb 2012 #147

This quote calls the whole basis of the o.p. into doubt. I'm so glad you're here. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #115

I am happy it was not 350,000. Rex Feb 2012 #79

I hate that this has happened. But people don't use the USPS much anymore, do they? Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #82

Who needs Republicans when we have Democrats willing to lie about Obama. geek tragedy Feb 2012 #88

Well, ProSense Feb 2012 #101

This is serious misinformation. DevonRex Feb 2012 #97

I find ProSense Feb 2012 #100

It's the same old crowd that will rec anything (and I seriously mean ANYTHING) Number23 Feb 2012 #154

Will brentspeak amend the OP? great white snark Feb 2012 #102

The Republicans appointed Donohoe? brentspeak Feb 2012 #137

Obama did not appoint Donohoe, your OP is wrong SunsetDreams Feb 2012 #140

I think you're right about Obama not appointing Donohoe brentspeak Feb 2012 #145

Happy days are here again uranus is my home Feb 2012 #104

Welcome, and ProSense Feb 2012 #111

If we mail all those "business reply mail" cards and envelopes, would the USPS earn more money? FarCenter Feb 2012 #113

Will any of the Obama haters who rec'd this withdraw geek tragedy Feb 2012 #119

JUst trying to live up to the execptation of needing so many post QA_IT_Pro Feb 2012 #121

So many lies, no need to bother with arguing, as there is no intent of being truthful. boppers Feb 2012 #124

Someone needs to file a lawsuit against the Republicans and the administration re: PO New Yawker Feb 2012 #125

"But no, Obama is content to let it go." Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #133

You must have flunked civics--the President can't override laws that have been geek tragedy Feb 2012 #134

155,000 jobs by 2016 smoopie Feb 2012 #136

Alles for zee Privat Sectorrrrr fascisthunter Feb 2012 #138

Well, ProSense Feb 2012 #142