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The Straight Story

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39. No, but look at what we are seeing:
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:49 PM
Aug 2013

This is just a small sample from Twitter (only covered about 3 minutes) - I don't know their political affiliation, rw'er, etc - but this is trending and the comments are pretty consistent.

If obama had 2 sons, they would look like the 2 thugs that killed American hero #DelbertBelton. Obama hates our veterans too.

Where's the outrage for #ChrisLane #DelbertBelton ? Why aren't you on TV Mr. President calling for justice for them!

#DelbertBelton , who was murdered in a racial attack, hasn't gotten anywhere near the attention of a rodeo clown with an Obama mask. Why?

Wonder if the two black teens who beat #DelbertBelton to death will claim he was being racist towards them?

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Here are the issues as I see them: If we are to be consistent when it comes to crimes and hate crimes why do we devote so much more time to one than the other (same thing as asking why do we cover missing white girls more than those of other races/sex - it is a fair question).

We cannot blame this crime on guns, and since guns didn't make this crime happen there might be another reason (cause gun crimes only happen because guns force people to commit the crimes, in this case we actually have to think and look for motives and question why it happened instead of spending all day over what was used/how).

If two Christians beat up and killed a Muslim the first thing people would note is the religion of the perp/victim. If two white kids beat and killed a black man we would be talking about race and it's motivation.

Why is so taboo to ask that same question in this case? What OTHER motivation comes to mind? Not robbery? Maybe ageism?

We can rule out guns making it happen, we can rule out robbery, we can rule out sexism.

Asking questions about motive is pretty natural, even if we don't like where it is leading. Why are some so afraid to ask the questions in this case and the Lane case (and any other case we see in the news)? Seeking reasons for why a few do something does not mean we feel the many are the same (unless it is guns, then the many = the very few).

horrible, beyond words. May he rest in peace. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2013 #1
Ya just have to ask "WTF is wrong with people". n/t CincyDem Aug 2013 #2
Seriously! Initech Aug 2013 #104
.............. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #3
Senseless crime... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #4
Is it really expected in any area? ileus Aug 2013 #18
I know areas in my town Bay Boy Aug 2013 #20
that's the sad and unspoken truth Supersedeas Aug 2013 #81
You made a good point about... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #109
It's not a bad area. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #96
reeks of a societal illness indepat Aug 2013 #5
Seriously -- this, Zimmerman killing Martin, and the Christopher Lane murder anneboleyn Aug 2013 #19
And then there's this: Myrina Aug 2013 #73
IMO we often live in a sick society ... I'm not sure if it's worse now or if we just have RKP5637 Aug 2013 #53
Definitely the latter, from all of what I've seen over the years. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #114
. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #6
Speechless. MineralMan Aug 2013 #7
heartbreaking. I really hope they apprehend these creeps and cali Aug 2013 #9
If it was me, tabasco Aug 2013 #13
Legal justice for you customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #28
He fought for our country, and two of our citizens LittleBlue Aug 2013 #8
You have no idea leftynyc Aug 2013 #63
This burns me up. Ilsa Aug 2013 #10
community service??? they beat an elderly man to death. sorry, but cali Aug 2013 #11
I finished my sentence before adding "after prison." Ilsa Aug 2013 #12
i don't think they should ever get out of prison JI7 Aug 2013 #23
I do. They are teens. If our prison had a rehab model, Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #44
Wow, your belief in the culprits who did this is truly remarkable Supersedeas Aug 2013 #82
This wasn't an accidental killing as the result of a mutual fight or a mugging gone bad. Mike Daniels Aug 2013 #93
I concur. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #101
There should be no 'after prison' for such human filth. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #17
I tend to agree, but then the DU group claiming Ilsa Aug 2013 #21
There won't be any WWII vets around then XemaSab Aug 2013 #66
We agree on that. n/t Skip Intro Aug 2013 #24
These scum should never see a free day again. But, if they do, razorman Aug 2013 #27
AFTER prison? There should be no AFTER prison. magical thyme Aug 2013 #76
Honestly. An 89 year old man who survived the Pacific front anneboleyn Aug 2013 #14
We are a nation of cowards Supersedeas Aug 2013 #83
this is so horrible, it affects me personally steve2470 Aug 2013 #15
Humans customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #30
ok, whaleshit at the bottom of the ocean, now I feel better lol nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #47
At least customerserviceguy Aug 2013 #50
I cannot disagree, sir nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #51
I agree get the red out Aug 2013 #54
Violence and/or emotional neglect in the family should DEFINITELY be investigated...... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #115
That's terrible madville Aug 2013 #16
My grandmother was mugged leftynyc Aug 2013 #64
If only we could provide teens when easier, more convenient ways of making money Supersedeas Aug 2013 #84
He wasn't a teenager leftynyc Aug 2013 #90
Regarding Okinawa DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #22
What scum. greytdemocrat Aug 2013 #25
Rest in peace. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #26
Do you think race played a role? oberliner Aug 2013 #29
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #31
It would seem to be racial. FarCenter Aug 2013 #33
Our one-post troll got MIRT'd promptly. Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #34
It always is because of the response it evokes in the black and white communities. FarCenter Aug 2013 #35
No, but look at what we are seeing: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #39
A thoughtful post. n/t Psephos Aug 2013 #45
If the races were reversed, DU would be barely moving. Skip Intro Aug 2013 #37
why not "ageist"? Actually, it seems to me more likely that these two creeps cali Aug 2013 #48
I agree, frail old man who could be easily robbed and killed for "kicks" steve2470 Aug 2013 #49
Yep, I would agree. theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #52
I thought you didn't believe in racism -or maybe you believe only white people are the victims of it CreekDog Aug 2013 #117
I have no words... City Lights Aug 2013 #32
Thank you for your sig line Shampoobra Aug 2013 #43
And thank you for yours! City Lights Aug 2013 #59
What a shame. I had lunch at that Eagles Lodge a couple of years ago. I met a good brewens Aug 2013 #36
Terrible, horrific... senseandsensibility Aug 2013 #38
I hope Mr. Belton is now in a far better place OmahaBlueDog Aug 2013 #40
Wow, he really didn't deserve to die that way. How fucking awful. n/t cigsandcoffee Aug 2013 #41
This makes me so mad! rollin74 Aug 2013 #42
"Witnesses say..." flvegan Aug 2013 #46
I wouldn't feel sorry for their loved ones get the red out Aug 2013 #55
That is poor reporting. Jenoch Aug 2013 #68
They may not have been in a position to intervene... magical thyme Aug 2013 #78
I'm wondering if it was the "knockout game" pintobean Aug 2013 #56
another incident of inner-city "wilding"? Supersedeas Aug 2013 #87
Nice to see the commenters below the story are keeping it classy Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #57
isn't anger, dismay, frustration, and nausea Supersedeas Aug 2013 #89
You get real -- Anger is one thing, outright racist ranting/Obama bashing is another... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #97
18-19 yrs Old 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #58
I thought the same thing RZM Aug 2013 #65
If these vermin had encountered Mr. Belton in his prime... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2013 #102
tjat should be a hate crime Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #60
Maybe. We don't have enough info to make that call cali Aug 2013 #61
preying on the weak Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #62
There are Laws for this instance 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #71
I might get flamed for this, Jenoch Aug 2013 #69
Why should they? Horrific crimes occur every day in this country cali Aug 2013 #74
I made zero demands. Jenoch Aug 2013 #75
fine. you implied that they should address this crime. cali Aug 2013 #77
Sharpton and jackson get involed Jenoch Aug 2013 #79
I believe Zimmerman was not arrested Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #98
it was decidedly not a clear case of self-defense. cali Aug 2013 #99
I really hope you're not calling me a bigot. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2013 #110
I was calling Zimmerman a bigot. cali Aug 2013 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Supersedeas Aug 2013 #92
what on earth are you trying to say here? cali Aug 2013 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #80
Pretty disgusting, isn't it? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #88
I am very, very close to walking away from this site. ieoeja Aug 2013 #95
It's been acceptable for a lot longer than today. Glassunion Aug 2013 #91
If I want to see right wing flame bait like that..... Paladin Aug 2013 #86
BREAKING NOW on CNN Sissyk Aug 2013 #70
Horrible. Myrina Aug 2013 #72
They'll catch these turds when they start... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #85
Really sad story maddezmom Aug 2013 #100
I am so sick and tired get the red out Aug 2013 #103
Sometimes I hate people. shenmue Aug 2013 #105
:( Catherine Vincent Aug 2013 #106
I really think those two punks beat Belton because he was an elderly guy. life long demo Aug 2013 #107
This makes me sick to my stomach Rex Aug 2013 #108
This breaks my heart so awful for someone that age to die Raine Aug 2013 #112
Rest in peace, Mr. Belton. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #113
Hooligan thugs... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #116
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