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In reply to the discussion: In case you were curious, Peet's Coffee & Tea has gun sense. [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)30. I totally agree and I carry. ...
It is quite possible that shooting at a robber may escalate the situation and more people might end up injured or dead than if the person with the concealed weapon merely observed and tried to remember details about the robber or robbers.
Unfortunately there are times when the robbery turns violent and clerks and customers get shot by the robbers.
This happened within walking distance of where I lived in Tampa.
In trial, a portrait of murder
By COLLEEN JENKINS
Published May 16, 2007
A witness provides a chilling image of the Subway killing of 2004.
A hooded man hovered behind Subway employee Danielle Miller. He pointed a gun, yelling for her to open the cash register. Freaked out, 22-year-old Miller fumbled with the touch screen.
She worked at the Town 'N Country sandwich shop to fund her education at the International Academy of Design & Technology. Just 26 seconds earlier, she had served her final customer his sandwich.
Now she couldn't open the register.
Girl, you're too slow, " the gunman said, according to a witness. "You gots to die."
He shot Miller three times. She fell to the floor.
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/16/Hillsborough/In_trial__a_portrait_.shtml
Once before another robbery ended tragically at a gas station connivance store within also walking distance of my home. In this incident the female clerk gave the robbers the money but they shot her to death as they were leaving the store.
Several years after the incident I pulled into this same station to fuel up my car and I didn't think anything of the police car by the entrance. When I tried to pump my gas, the pump would not function. A police officer appeared at the door of the store and yelled at me that a robbery had just happened and the pumps had been turned off.
The next day I stopped at the station and asked the clerk what had went down. He said, "Some kid walked in and pointed a gun at me. I gave him the money in the register and he left. No big deal."
Had I been inside the store a few minutes before I might have been in the middle of a bad situation. I would have calmly observed but if I had sensed that things were about to go seriously downhill or if the robber had shot the clerk, I would have been willing to use the snub nosed .38 revolver in my pocket to attempt to stop the robber.
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Thanks. I will be buying Peet's Coffee from now on. It is sometimes on sale at my supermarket.
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#1
Go ahead, it's a free country. I will go elsewhere because I don't feel comfortable with
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#64
It's not about the price of coffee. You also get to rent a table to hang out with a friend...
Lucky Luciano
Aug 2013
#76
What do you call somebody who can't even walk to the store without packing heat?
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#80
Maybe so. But since CC is banned in most urban areas, I guess it's kind of a moot point...
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#94
Okay, I guess I was mistaken. I was just thinking "big cities = strict gun laws."
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#96
So according to you Walker made it legal to have carnal knowledge of firearms?
oneshooter
Aug 2013
#121
Respectfully, where can I find that in the Constitution, or any state equivalent?
branford
Aug 2013
#53
And yet you managed to drink coffee out innumerable times without getting killed or injured.
branford
Aug 2013
#63
And I manage to drink coffee out innumerable times without getting killed or injured MANY times...
CTyankee
Aug 2013
#66
Thank you for the --How To Be A Compliant Victim-- lecture. I'll take it under advisement.
branford
Aug 2013
#17
In many jurisdictions, statutory and common law will protect someone involved in a lawful shooting.
branford
Aug 2013
#41
Maybe, but I'm not willing to gamble with a clerk's life or safety any more than a patron's
branford
Aug 2013
#47
Average robbers don't want an incident. So compliance works well for them, they
bluestate10
Aug 2013
#73
On the other hand I might have simply mistaken an innocent situation as far worse. ...
spin
Aug 2013
#90
Easily the most respectful and productive subthread I've seen on a subject like this.
Bazinga
Aug 2013
#118
I read in the article that the policy in California, even where open carry is welcomed, is that
Squinch
Aug 2013
#35
Good to know, and good to hear the law was changed to something reasonable. Thanks!
Squinch
Aug 2013
#43
The Open Carry people have been saying they were going to start carrying shotguns and rifles,
Mr.Bill
Aug 2013
#46
If I am ever in a store and see someone carrying a gun, I am out of there as fast as my legs will c
appleannie1
Aug 2013
#104
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm sure it would make me nervous to see someone "packing."
nomorenomore08
Aug 2013
#107
How is anyone to know if they are not a serial shooter? Or just some hot head looking for a fight?
appleannie1
Aug 2013
#108