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morningfog

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42. There are reasons for that.

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 11:25 PM

Sep 2013

First and foremost, the UN security council approved Libya military action. Libya was a "legal" war, whereas Syria does not seem to be headed that way.

Second, as you mention, the no-fly zone. The no fly-zone was a clear objective, with effective results.

Here in Syria, we have ill-defined and open-ended objectives.

Get a UN resolution and a plan that can be measured and carried out effectively and there would be less push back. I was against the Libya action, but it was at least legal under international law and I understood the objectives.

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This afternoon, we were assured that Syria is not Iraq. [View all] Atticus Sep 2013 OP

We are an Empire now nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #1

And people wonder why we hate KKKarl. nt Atticus Sep 2013 #2

But it applies nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #8

Does leader of the free world still apply ... ???? MindMover Sep 2013 #27

Presidents would like to believe such nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #28

I'm starting to wonder how old some of the people posting here were in 2003 if they can't see any uhnope Sep 2013 #38

Well. you might want to ask the General Secretary of the UN Ban Ki Mun nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #39

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #40

It is? So you are telling me the Al Qaida types are not on the ground nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #41

Libya wasn't Iraq either. ProSense Sep 2013 #3

It's doing great jakeXT Sep 2013 #6

All lies all the time malaise Sep 2013 #4

Lest we forget Kerry votes FOR attacking Iraq pettypace Sep 2013 #5

Syria is NOT like Iraq. Syria will be more like Libya but without a no-fly zone Tx4obama Sep 2013 #7

Strange, isn't it? Is proximity to the 2014 midterms the reason? FSogol Sep 2013 #9

That could be taken as implying something which I would find very offensive. Atticus Sep 2013 #11

Simple. Syria is generating a wailing and gnashing of teeth that Libya did not. Why? FSogol Sep 2013 #13

And your reference to the 2014 elections? nt Atticus Sep 2013 #14

Connect the dots. I do recognize that... FSogol Sep 2013 #16

I agree. If the president embraces the Republican desire for war in Syria rhett o rick Sep 2013 #21

They have already laid wonderful groundwork in picking up the conservative economic votes Dragonfli Sep 2013 #24

Hey, hey. Jeeze you didnt have to say it out loud. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #31

What a bunch of nonsense. FSogol Sep 2013 #25

I hope you're being sarcastic Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #43

Funny, but if I would have said the same about Pres Obama joining with the REpublicans rhett o rick Sep 2013 #44

I see--- Atticus Sep 2013 #29

That's what you got from what I wrote? FSogol Sep 2013 #30

You missed all those of us who thought Libya was a complete disaster? polly7 Sep 2013 #15

There was some n2doc Sep 2013 #17

I remember all the Libya = Iraq comparisons, but don't remember pure, unadulterated Obama-hatred FSogol Sep 2013 #19

I think because Obama wasn't seen as leading the effort n2doc Sep 2013 #20

The U.S. Senate passed a resolution urging the UN to impose the no-fly zone in March 2011 Tx4obama Sep 2013 #26

I suppose we will leave Syria in as good a shape as Libya, things are a humanitarian mecca there now Dragonfli Sep 2013 #18

I was upset about Libya. Maedhros Sep 2013 #37

There are reasons for that. morningfog Sep 2013 #42

And how soon after that to Russia or China? Hydra Sep 2013 #10

Credit of course, and if the source of borrowing is the peoples trust fund (SS) it doesn't even show Dragonfli Sep 2013 #22

another of the things it's not is Nazi Germany. MNBrewer Sep 2013 #12

I beg to differ! According to Obama and Kerry it is exactly like Nazi Germany! Dragonfli Sep 2013 #23

As soon as the American People forget that we got lied to again. Volaris Sep 2013 #32

Lies lies lies tell me more big lies blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #33

HOw soon? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #34

And of course, none are Afghanistan. DirkGently Sep 2013 #35

Iraq was less than 1/10th of Vietnam (as far as KIA goes) Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #36