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Zorra

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154. If Obama had started a New Deal type program soon after he was first elected, like FDR did,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

he would have an even larger majority in both Houses than he had during the first two years of his Presidency, again, like FDR did.

Many of us here at DU were screaming for Obama to implement New Deal type policies. Some, (like myself) were screaming for Reid to change Senate rules to simple majority so that we could steamroll necessary traditional Democratic Party reforms and policies into law. We knew it was our chance to beat down the republicans and make them our punks for decades. We knew that if Obama pulled an FDR, we could eventually wipe out Reaganism and 8 destructive years of Bush.

But no, instead of damning the torpedoes and going full speed ahead with traditional Democratic reforms, Obama, assisted by his trusty corporatist Third Way Wall St tool Harry Reid, proceeded to squander our large majorities in both Houses by embarking on a destructive, completely ludicrous agenda of compromising for the sake of "bipartisanship", pandering to republicans and appeasing Wall St banksters, republicans, and all other wealthy private interests.

The result for our large majority Congress?



Gosh, who knew? Who could have predicted that would happen?!?

We got 6 years of what has basically been a lame duck Presidency, with a deranged republican conservative/Third Way congress bullying Democrats into whining, pathetic helplessness as republicans filibuster anything that might lead to productive change like schoolyard bullies. Because they can. Because Democrats gave them the power by not standing up to them like adults and setting the boundaries from the get go.

And we stood by, outraged, unbelieving, and helpless, as Democrats squandered all our hard earned and well deserved hope.

It's almost like it was all planned this way.

Let's hope the ACA exchange system that will be implemented in 2014 is successful in giving people real time unquestionable relief, or we could lose even more seats next year.

And Reagan was obviously a sick, twisted creep, in case you didn't get that from observing his personal actions.

Cold Truth, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #1
And yet half the country considers him a saint. polichick Sep 2013 #3
A Sad Fact, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2013 #11
The next batch of 18 year old voters were born in Clinton's second term.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #21
And Thank God for that!!! calimary Sep 2013 #60
He invented and fomented the Politics of Spite. It hit full on, domestically, and ancianita Sep 2013 #114
Ronald Reagan yeoman6987 Sep 2013 #55
Yeah Sugarcoated Sep 2013 #89
my dad always said they sold reagan to us a product, like a bar of soap. dionysus Sep 2013 #100
The 49 state Electoral College victory was why the Democratic Leadership Council, Beer Swiller Sep 2013 #96
An excellent post. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #107
Very good analysis, thank you! truebluegreen Sep 2013 #135
Great OP and great reply ReasonableToo Sep 2013 #151
A saint clearly on the fast track to deification. indepat Sep 2013 #137
His ''legacy'' continues, Sir, through the Federal Courts... Octafish Sep 2013 #4
Are judges influencing war decisions? golfguru Sep 2013 #13
The Courts certainly play a role in Secret Government. Octafish Sep 2013 #32
I Know, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #15
DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #16
I hadn't thought much about this part of his legacy either. Overseas Sep 2013 #62
Probably the most damaging president ever.... George II Sep 2013 #47
I agree & Thom Hartman addresses this fact a lot on his radio show! Rockyj Sep 2013 #48
HAH! Remember when Queen Nancy commented - "look at all those beautiful white faces" calimary Sep 2013 #63
I'm so glad Thom keeps reminding us all of the damage Reagan did. Overseas Sep 2013 #70
Too true wryter2000 Sep 2013 #99
The electorate is getting what they asked for... harun Sep 2013 #130
evil monsters. Whisp Sep 2013 #2
My precise sentiments, Whisp. Octafish Sep 2013 #8
Great link on the Reagan PR machine. So much destruction. Overseas Sep 2013 #64
Yup I have been saying it for a long time gopiscrap Sep 2013 #5
Reaganomics Revealed Octafish Sep 2013 #12
Lots Of Words To Say Reagan Was A Dumb Ass HangOnKids Sep 2013 #31
thanks for countering all the revisionism noiretextatique Sep 2013 #6
And kill brown people and destabilize countries and steal and exploit AND FLAUNT IT ALL! Catherina Sep 2013 #10
yes...was reading about Pinochet and the CIA just today noiretextatique Sep 2013 #17
Mourning in the Americas Overseas Sep 2013 #65
Don't forget the Salvadoran baby skulls! LongTomH Sep 2013 #111
Oh Gawd. I had no idea Catherina Sep 2013 #121
Reagan, White As Snow Octafish Sep 2013 #18
i literally could feel the mood of the country change overnight when he was elected noiretextatique Sep 2013 #20
thank you Octafish...lotta good reads you're sharing BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2013 #45
Such a mean man. Posing as friendly grandpa. Overseas Sep 2013 #66
Kick Scuba Sep 2013 #7
''Like I Wasn’t President at All'' Octafish Sep 2013 #28
I never believed that either Ronald Reagan nor Nancy's astrologer were in charge. Scuba Sep 2013 #29
RR: A USEFUL IDIOT FOR FRIENDS OF BUSH Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #36
my dad knew ronny when he was in high school madrchsod Sep 2013 #72
He may have forgotten. We still suffer. Overseas Sep 2013 #67
I hope this is posted to FB. It will be on my page. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #9
John Perkins put it thusly... Octafish Sep 2013 #23
Read Perkins' book Real eye-opener. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #39
These words describe the ring of the speech that Obama gave this evening; that America controls the DhhD Sep 2013 #56
Who honestly thought electing the guy... bobclark86 Sep 2013 #14
It's this thing called PROPAGANDA and its main organ of promulgation, Corporate McPravda... Octafish Sep 2013 #43
Then just a few years later xfundy Sep 2013 #49
I'm going to guess you're talking about something named Bush... n/t bobclark86 Sep 2013 #53
I don't think anyone has a real grasp of what they were really doing Hydra Sep 2013 #19
The High and Mighty Royals... Octafish Sep 2013 #51
reagan's was the most corrupt administration in the 20th century noiretextatique Sep 2013 #22
George Herbert Walker Bush, American Caligula Octafish Sep 2013 #88
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #24
Pruneface called President Kennedy a SOCIALIST in 1961... Octafish Sep 2013 #52
It's too bad he didn't remain an actor instead of pretending to be a President. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #54
More cruelty. Overseas Sep 2013 #68
This is something that can never be forgiven. HughBeaumont Sep 2013 #83
"Ronnie Raygun vs. the Welfare Queens from Outer Space" LongTomH Sep 2013 #25
That would make a heckuva picture! Octafish Sep 2013 #91
You knew Sonny Eliot? Wow navarth Sep 2013 #139
Thank you Octafish JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #26
Ronald Reagan's War on Labor Octafish Sep 2013 #106
Some "gems" from Reagan... bluesbassman Sep 2013 #27
I'd forgotten some of those quotes. Overseas Sep 2013 #69
And who can forget, Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #77
+1. He was piece of work. pinto Sep 2013 #103
Great post malaise Sep 2013 #30
Reagan, MCA, and the Mob Octafish Sep 2013 #109
Reagan was our worst President,but don't forget Nixon's Southern Stratrgy 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #33
Kevin Phillips, the guy behind that, was shocked to see how it was used. Octafish Sep 2013 #118
I look forward to the day we change the name of Reagan Airport to Martin Luther King Memorial Zorra Sep 2013 #34
The guy changed Cape Kennedy back to Cape Canaveral. Octafish Sep 2013 #119
Damn. Here I thought this was going to be another Obama thread. bigwillq Sep 2013 #35
Seeing how war criminals walk free and good men are in prison... Octafish Sep 2013 #124
Reagan, Hoover, Bush are the 3 best examples of why you shouldn't let your kids grow... TeamPooka Sep 2013 #37
Screw hoover iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #80
Absolutely. The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids, though. Octafish Sep 2013 #125
+1000 TeamPooka Sep 2013 #133
The beginning of the Great Demise. Coyotl Sep 2013 #38
"Big Bigot" and "Baby Bigot" starroute Sep 2013 #40
T. Kenneth Cribb Jr is called a ''Welfare Queen'' by a fellow conservative. Octafish Sep 2013 #144
There's a lot more of interest on Cribb starroute Sep 2013 #147
White Power and Dark Forces Octafish Sep 2013 #148
WRONG!!! Reagan was our greatest modern President. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #41
LOL...tore down the Berlin Wall with his nut sack! deutsey Sep 2013 #86
Someone, please tell me how I can preserve this thread forever. I want to be able to use excerpts kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #42
Excellent post. Thanks for pointing out he announced in Philadelphia, Mississippi. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #44
I do agree that reagan was a pos and responsible for a lot of shit wrong today but... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #46
Don't think he meant obama. I think he means the trans-administration "government" Scootaloo Sep 2013 #58
It appears he does... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #93
So what? Like I wrote, not entirely. But here's more on why I feel that way... Octafish Sep 2013 #113
"no matter what your or some people say" - Thanks for putting words in my mouth Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #115
That's what you implied in Reply 46. Octafish Sep 2013 #120
Not thinking Obama is a traitor = Nothing is wrong? Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #123
Show where I call Obama a traitor. Octafish Sep 2013 #126
You first did it in the OP Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #128
''Not entirely'' is different from what you imply, isn't it? Octafish Sep 2013 #129
Not entirely. Octafish Sep 2013 #92
K & R AzDar Sep 2013 #50
Pruneface wanted to ban the Department of Education and classify ketchup as a vegetable. Octafish Sep 2013 #145
K&R Segami Sep 2013 #57
Pruneface brought death to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of innocents in Central America. Octafish Sep 2013 #146
Thanks for the memories. I probably won't sleep tonight. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #59
I am sorry, Grammy. The actor played Boogeyman for keeps. Octafish Sep 2013 #116
Thank you. Until recently I didn't know about the significance of the location of his announcement. Overseas Sep 2013 #61
It's like the South won the Civil War. Octafish Sep 2013 #152
So much I don't know... Overseas Sep 2013 #156
when his dad and brother worked for the wpa in dixon il he became a fdr democrat. madrchsod Sep 2013 #71
Lets not forget how Ron changed our energy policy. Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #73
BCCI: The Bank of the CIA Octafish Sep 2013 #105
How about Medicare? Iliyah Sep 2013 #74
Bonzo Goes to Bitburg johnnyreb Sep 2013 #75
I'm curious about the connections between the Nazis who escaped after WWII and today's "Neo-Nazis" LongTomH Sep 2013 #112
Thank you, Octafish. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #76
k&r thanks for posting. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #78
Ok. demosincebirth Sep 2013 #79
yep . . . .kick. . .n/t annabanana Sep 2013 #81
He may have been coming down with dementia - TBF Sep 2013 #82
I wonder if we'll ever come out from under the dark, right-wing shadow deutsey Sep 2013 #84
"Speed it up, puppet!!" HughBeaumont Sep 2013 #85
Good reminder. CanSocDem Sep 2013 #95
A hearty vociferous REC Sugarcoated Sep 2013 #87
won't forget this gem florida08 Sep 2013 #90
Home interest rates set at 13.5%; underwater until the last few years of the home loan. Then came DhhD Sep 2013 #98
geez forgot about the S&L thing florida08 Sep 2013 #117
S&L Scams were a dry run for what was to come in 2008. Octafish Sep 2013 #122
Damn skippy Octafish florida08 Sep 2013 #143
doesn't surprise me heaven05 Sep 2013 #94
See, there's the difference between you and I hootinholler Sep 2013 #97
Siphoning from the poor to give to the rich suffragette Sep 2013 #101
he started out as an FDR supporter, then completely lost his fucking mind. dionysus Sep 2013 #102
I think Ford deserves special mention, BarbaRosa Sep 2013 #104
Can we dig that fuckers casket up and put it in prison forever? L0oniX Sep 2013 #108
k+r & bookmarked. Thanks Octafish. ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2013 #110
terrifying photo. Voice for Peace Sep 2013 #127
That was summer 1980. Octafish Sep 2013 #131
Only took a couple hundred years and they managed to turn us into what we escaped from. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #132
For many of US these are truly Death Valley Days, Sir. I'll add a few related links this Patriot's bobthedrummer Sep 2013 #134
Sure, it's fun to beat up on Reagan... Blanks Sep 2013 #136
You know who I REALLY like to pound on? Octafish Sep 2013 #140
I didn't say FDR didn't do a marvelous job. Blanks Sep 2013 #141
If Obama had started a New Deal type program soon after he was first elected, like FDR did, Zorra Sep 2013 #154
That's your opinion... Blanks Sep 2013 #155
I wish America could declare independence from the BIG Money felix_numinous Sep 2013 #138
Yougottit! Taverner Sep 2013 #142
K&R. Ray-gun was a vile pos. nt DLevine Sep 2013 #149
It was his handlers as much as it was him. GoCubsGo Sep 2013 #150
This is one of the Best threads I've read in a long time! Much of it should be in history books. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #153
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