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LWolf

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34. The bottom line, though,

Sun Sep 15, 2013, 05:32 PM

Sep 2013

is that the Federal Government spends much more on defense than it does on education. Those state expenditures aren't funds going to the feds to disburse back to states.

Including state expenditures artificially inflates those statistics. It also doesn't reflect actual spending in individual states.

Education has always been largely a state and local funded activity, while the federal government assumes more and more control of the whole system without adding significantly to that funding. Unfunded and under-funded federal mandates are the norm in education.

Which again, is beside the point. When we are talking about national budgets, state expenditures aren't included.

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Teachers experience a growing number of angry, abusive parents [View all] proud2BlibKansan Sep 2013 OP

Yup, my wife is a teacher and has found that to be true gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1

Spot on!!!!!! Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #10

It's that and working two to three jobs BrotherIvan Sep 2013 #13

Absolutely!! And in our neck of the woods, this helps them get rid of high salaries, DebJ Sep 2013 #14

Students, parents, and even teachers are getting fed up with how broken our public school system is. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #2

They push to keep kids with their age cohort. Igel Sep 2013 #6

I agree with most of what you said except the funding issue. Class sizes are too big in a lot of liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #8

I concur the system is broken, its not the system that is at its core, its a symptom of a greater.. Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #9

yeah, I agree with gopiscrap's post. Poverty is a big part of it. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #11

If we spend HALF the money on education as we do defense there would be less complaining uponit7771 Sep 2013 #20

Actually, we spend more on education than on defense FarCenter Sep 2013 #24

Interesting. LWolf Sep 2013 #25

The federal budget for education is small, but the state and local ones are large FarCenter Sep 2013 #33

The bottom line, though, LWolf Sep 2013 #34

uponit7771 didn't specify whether "we" meant just federal or total spending FarCenter Sep 2013 #35

. LWolf Sep 2013 #36

I disagree, there should be a floor on education spending and there's not. THat floor could be set uponit7771 Sep 2013 #38

Apples to apples we STILL spend more on defense then, FEDREAL spending on education is not half uponit7771 Sep 2013 #37

30 years of "children having children." jaysunb Sep 2013 #3

Oh, heck yeh. Another post about this. madfloridian Sep 2013 #4

Out of control, the systems,the expectations,the kids,the parents MichiganVote Sep 2013 #5

Thank Raygun xfundy Sep 2013 #7

Add Bush and Obama. earthside Sep 2013 #28

Politicians and our government has declared war on teachers, parents are joining in nt msongs Sep 2013 #12

Because many parents believe they have zero to do with their own children's education. DebJ Sep 2013 #15

Do you understand that your attitude is part of th problem? missingthebigdog Sep 2013 #29

yes, frankly I get tired of hearing parents and teachers blame each other. We should be working liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #30

The debate: spend on education, health, infrastructure, or spend on war. delrem Sep 2013 #16

My niece is a teacher in British Columbia. Suich Sep 2013 #17

yes they have Skittles Sep 2013 #21

Used to post on a board where tea partiers in suburban schools told their kids that the teachers freshwest Sep 2013 #18

This society is broken... ReRe Sep 2013 #19

I agree... devils chaplain Sep 2013 #26

The violence stems from conservatives hatred of public education. B Calm Sep 2013 #22

I agree. Not a day goes by that the right does not tell us that the teachers are the problem. OregonBlue Sep 2013 #23

It all begins in the home. There is a certain lack of respect for public servants (teachers too) kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #27

Middle income school maynard Sep 2013 #31

Thank the ReTHUG politicians malaise Sep 2013 #32