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In reply to the discussion: When a hate crime occurs against gays, we talk about homophobia immediately afterwards [View all]Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)50. Norway has some pretty strict gun laws
And a guy killed 70 children
And other than an assault weapons ban (which is not necessarily a bad thing) I don't know what would have prevented new town. Even an assault weapon ban would have limited the firepower not the action.
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When a hate crime occurs against gays, we talk about homophobia immediately afterwards [View all]
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
OP
When a gang rape occurs in Delhi, we don't talk about chemical castration for men, either.
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#6
no, thats not the ONLY proper analagy. we talk about reducing homophobia/transphobia and misogyny
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#12
Those relate to changing people's attitudes. Hate crime legislation is about punishment post crime.
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#14
no it's not. we dont just talk about punishment when it come to discussing rape/hate crimes
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#16
making restrictions on the instrument would help, for instance reducing the number of hate radio
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#19
baseball bats have another use besides killing. what exactly do urban people do with guns
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#24
the analogy to baseball bats or knives is weak. they never cause the casual havoc a single gun can
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#34
So I shouldn't expect you to support a baseball bat ban the next time a gay person is killed?
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#39
is there an epidemic of mass baseball bat beatings that kill several people at once?
CreekDog
Sep 2013
#68
Interesting diversion into another area, but that wasn't the topic we were discussing.
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#75
True, but the "per 100k" rate is what to look at. They have a high rate of gun ownership;
7962
Sep 2013
#106
So only hate crimes with multiple victims deserve legislation? Tsk tsk tsk. n/t
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#81
I think you missed my point- even without guns, we tend to be twice as homicidal as Germany
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#40
You be sure to tut-tut all those posting funny stories in the last 24 hours to lighten the mood, ya?
X_Digger
Sep 2013
#77
I don't think some on here are digging deep enough to get to the root of the problem
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2013
#44
Some people are genuine threats. They need intervention as unhappy a thought as that may be.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#139
He was under care, IIRC. But then there's Cho, Holmes, Alexis and Loughner.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#143
If the mentally ill had any control over their state of being they wouldn't be ill.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#148
It would be silly to use Lanza as an excuse to not commit Cho, Loughner, Holmes, Hassan, etc.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#153
Well, the narrative becomes almost entirely about banning one class of guns.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#28
my overall point isn't that gun control is the only solution, but to say it wont help is naive
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#31
The NRA hasn't taken an official stand in favor of crimes against gay people or gang rape...YET.
FiveGoodMen
Sep 2013
#32
the NRA is only the mouthpiece of a multi- billion dollar gun industry
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#35
Well, either way, the point was that there's powerful money and organization behind the gun thing
FiveGoodMen
Sep 2013
#60
its not even really a discussion about guns but the hypocrisy surrounding massacres
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#37
Because the gun nuts would rather plug their ears, close their eyes, and scream.
Vashta Nerada
Sep 2013
#58
Excellent point. I think what we are seeing is one of the true religions of this country is the
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#61
Our founders felt it was important enough to specifically mention it by name
The Straight Story
Sep 2013
#93
And we should be attuned to which of the founder's views are now anachronisms, like gun ownership.
stevenleser
Sep 2013
#97
i agree that guns are not the whole problem but guns make it easier to kill people
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#79
The word "glee" leads to an OP by Rebellious Republican the day of the shooting.
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2013
#87
i got angry at your sanctimonious tone but the word glee was not only used by RR
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#108
i am seriously suggesting that both on DU and off DU people seem really quick
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#109
Self-defense is a human right. Let's not strip them of the means of defending themselves.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#99
and this is why conversations about gun control after massacres is considered a political issue?
La Lioness Priyanka
Sep 2013
#100
If self-defense is a basic, essential human right then those rights trump
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#101
The human right to self-defense transcends its inclusion, or lack thereof, in any code of law.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#136
I never comment about gun issues on DU because there is no discussion only two
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#96