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former9thward

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15. The Manchin/Toomey proposal would have done nothing about Alexis.

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Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:40 PM

Sep 2013

He had no criminal record. I don't remember enough details for the Cho case.

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Navy Yard shooting near U.S. Capitol unlikely to spur new gun laws [View all] Jefferson23 Sep 2013 OP

If only Congress cared enough to do something about it. Rex Sep 2013 #1

What is the number, does one exist that will turn the NRA money useless..I don't know. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #4

Maybe ten times the number? Rex Sep 2013 #5

I think we have no confidence that such a number exists for the NRA's stranglehold to unwind. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #8

Gun violence is actually down golfguru Sep 2013 #17

Not to mention some very vocal constituents... Weiter Sep 2013 #19

True many have to depend on votes by NRA members in their state. Rex Sep 2013 #20

Welome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #22

All I'm asking for is an improved background check system derby378 Sep 2013 #2

The Manchin/Toomey proposal would have done nothing about Alexis. former9thward Sep 2013 #15

The state didn't pass Cho's mental illness info to the feds so Cho was able to pass NICS checks. PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #26

Frankly, the only way to slow down mass killings in Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #29

By improved background are you talking specifically mental health reporting rl6214 Sep 2013 #39

Maybe all three share the blame for this derby378 Sep 2013 #40

Unbelivable! malletgirl02 Sep 2013 #3

it's just collateral damage Skittles Sep 2013 #6

What new laws would have prevented this? nt Llewlladdwr Sep 2013 #7

Better background checks. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #9

Just include Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #11

In his case, ANY data... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #14

Exactly right. Adam-Bomb Sep 2013 #23

In the past four years, the NRA passed 99 laws making guns easier to own and conceal Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #10

As long as there is a population, many of them kept ignorant xfundy Sep 2013 #12

no shit. If 20 dead 1st graders in NJ didn't get it done, nothing will NightWatcher Sep 2013 #13

Granted, we don't want mentally ill people able to buy guns. Bake Sep 2013 #16

I don't support changes to HIPAA. Open carry, gun show sales and a host of other laws Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #21

It will spur a lot more gun sales, especially shotguns. AlinPA Sep 2013 #18

Only if DiFi proposes AWB 5.0 (Now with Remington 870 Pump action bannage!) n/t X_Digger Sep 2013 #24

I used a walnut & blue steel model in the dove field last wk. Got 10. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #28

Well of course not geomon666 Sep 2013 #25

Here are some possible reasons for little change: Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #27

Of course, you're correct, but it's easier to just blame the NRA for everything badtoworse Sep 2013 #30

That "incrementalism" is the consequence of puritanical prohibition... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #32

It would help if both sides were open to a deal. badtoworse Sep 2013 #36

Like the NRA, the controllers have a tiger by the tail.... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #46

Good summary. It's why nothing constructive ever gets done. badtoworse Sep 2013 #47

I would appreciate knowing what level of gun control reform you support. Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #35

Concessions? That implies an option to say no. badtoworse Sep 2013 #37

Concessions is a word you used in your previous post. That is why I asked Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #38

Concessions was meant in the context of not fighting tooth and nail against new gun control measures badtoworse Sep 2013 #41

If those measures would have little impact on gun violence, what do you propose would Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #42

They would be in the mental health areas and eliminating reasons why people resort to gun violence badtoworse Sep 2013 #43

HIPAA would need to be compromised, that is something the present administration is Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #44

Most semi-automatic handguns today are based on the .45 cal M1911 pistol developed for the military badtoworse Sep 2013 #45

So how would the NRA's roll back on laws help curb the violence? Are you suggesting Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #48

First off, what laws has the NRA rolled back? I'm unaware of any. badtoworse Sep 2013 #49

I have a link for you about the NRA laws that have made it much easier for gun rights Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #50

I had hoped to respond this morning, but Mother Jones crashes my computer at work. badtoworse Sep 2013 #53

He used the most popular hunting shotgun in America NickB79 Sep 2013 #31

According to Remington, over 10,000,000 produced. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #33

I do believe in the US we have a collective list of all types of gun control options Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #34

if a school full of dead 5 year olds didn't spur change, why would anyone think this tragedy would? piratefish08 Sep 2013 #51

Gee, what a fucking surprise. 99Forever Sep 2013 #52