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JoePhilly

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15. Ok, in all seriousness, I think this is what happened ...

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:51 PM

Sep 2013

I "think" the Senate really voted to take the House Bill and use it as the basis for their budget vote.

Reid and the Senate Dems will strip out the "defund Obamacare" part of the House bill, and then pass that revised version ... and send THAT revised version, back to the House.

The other GOP senators did not want to vote against this vote becuase it includes the HOuse bill as a starting point, but they will vote against it after the Senate Dems modify it.

Then, the House GOP can not pass that, and try to blame the government shut down on the mean Dems who altered the House bill.

GOP Senators won't have voted to shut the government down ... they voted to keep it open today, and then opposed the Dem bill (that will pass the Senate).

Its a game really.

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Ted Cruz just voted for Obamacare (Senate votes 100-0 for Obamacare) [View all] geek tragedy Sep 2013 OP

Say! Liberal Veteran Sep 2013 #1

+1 nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #2

I'm trying to keep up Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #3

He has to be deemed the biggest idiot breathing. Lol. Let your yes mean yes and your no, no SummerSnow Sep 2013 #5

One of those smart guys who's a dumb ass. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #7

I'm shocked he can Aerows Sep 2013 #33

He might be breathing out his mouth. eom Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #45

Touche! LMAO Aerows Sep 2013 #48

You said it better than I could have Grateful for Hope Sep 2013 #61

I don't get this one Aerows Sep 2013 #62

The only thing I can think Grateful for Hope Sep 2013 #63

yup gopiscrap Sep 2013 #55

It's even dumber than that . . . aggiesal Sep 2013 #16

Not exactly. First, there was no real filibuster as no Senate business was being held up. PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #27

two 'key' votes in that regard: geek tragedy Sep 2013 #41

Huh? postulater Sep 2013 #4

send him back to Canada so he can get some free mental healthcare NightWatcher Sep 2013 #6

Do that, Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #46

Is Ted Cruz a Democrat in disguise? Avalux Sep 2013 #8

So he voted for the measure after spening 21 hours ranting against it? What a cheese dick, lol Erose999 Sep 2013 #9

And this was a bill he demanded the House pass in the first place nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #10

Way to stand your ground, Ted! cynatnite Sep 2013 #11

He's just covering both sides of his ass. This way video clips can be found to cover shraby Sep 2013 #12

He was for the cloture vote before he was against it before he was for it. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #13

Ted cuz = Ellipsis Sep 2013 #14

Ok, in all seriousness, I think this is what happened ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #15

You got it Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #17

That's exactly what the plan was, but Cruz had demagogued the issue to such geek tragedy Sep 2013 #18

Agree completely ... he's been so over the top that any game playing JoePhilly Sep 2013 #24

We'll see how they vote once the defunding language is stripped and it's time geek tragedy Sep 2013 #25

Cruz already has committed to voting 'NO' on the next cloture vote pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #67

That's right. This was a vote to take up the House budget bill which defunds obamacare. PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #30

Brilliant, as usual. I couldn't have stated it better myself. Say...could it be... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #37

yes, I think you have described the procedures correctly ongoing. Now they need to strip out the northoftheborder Sep 2013 #39

So he was for it before he was against it before he was for it? mac56 Sep 2013 #19

Anyone who thinks this is about Obamacare TBF Sep 2013 #20

^^^ THIS ^^^ BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #22

Yes, you got it. djean111 Sep 2013 #26

He is the Senate version of Miley Cyrus-- tblue37 Sep 2013 #65

lol - good analogy! nt TBF Sep 2013 #68

Sadly for him, it's not a photogenic face. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #31

Exactly. It's all about getting the right wing nuts to vote for him in the 2016 GOP primary. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #32

But he was born in Canada, he couldn't run even if he wanted to! Initech Sep 2013 #44

lol - you are going to see TeaPartiers spinning TBF Sep 2013 #50

Butter will be a hot commodity when that happens! Initech Sep 2013 #56

I thought his parents were Canadian? Ruby the Liberal Sep 2013 #51

He was born in Calgary to an American mother - TBF Sep 2013 #52

NBC put up an article giving an outline of this -- TBF Sep 2013 #53

I guess McConnell explained Ilsa Sep 2013 #21

No, he was told he was going to do what he was told to do. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #23

the turtle gets tough! ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #36

Actually the key 'cloture' vote will be later this week. This vote was for the Senate PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #28

So, voting for the Senate to begin to debate the House bill is voting against Obamacare, but geek tragedy Sep 2013 #29

Surely this guy Aerows Sep 2013 #34

???? What is he trying to pull now??? ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #35

Mwahahaha! sakabatou Sep 2013 #38

Primary that liberal socialist communist Coyotl Sep 2013 #40

From Joe My God: Cruz versus Green Acres' Mr. Haney: blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #42

Nicely done. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #43

DUzy! Brilliant. We should start calling him Mr. Haney. spooky3 Sep 2013 #66

So... This was the same bullshit paul pulled a while back... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #47

Yay! Now companies will have to pay a huge whopping $1K fine!!! Taverner Sep 2013 #49

He only cares about $$$. He successfully raised a bunch of $$$ mucifer Sep 2013 #54

Some minds boggle. His seems scrabbled. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #57

Ted Cruz is an imbecile n/t etherealtruth Sep 2013 #58

he is a f***ing drama queen Skittles Sep 2013 #59

he is just ignorant sad-cafe Sep 2013 #60

Simple. He ran in Texas with an R behind his name. nt nyquil_man Sep 2013 #64

Up vote for good framing grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #69

One or two people in this thread actually understand madville Sep 2013 #70