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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
4. The Senate is capable of multi-tasking
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:46 AM
Feb 2021

They could have suspended the impeachment trial and created a select committee to gain more information about what really happened in the insurrection. This would have freed up the Senate to tackle all the other things.

Remember: Ds control the Senate. We need to do so. McConnell did not allow the impeachment to be transmitted to the Senate while he was still Majority Leader. And then yesterday, he claimed that the trial was "unconstitutional", even though he is the one that allegedly made it "unconstitutional." Under these circumstances and trump's complete failure to abide by anything the House wanted for the last 2 years, suspension of the trial and creation of a Senate select committee was entirely warranted.

And the Senate could pass all the other things you reference during the suspension and while its select committee was gathering evidence.

The Senate called witnesses during the Clinton impeachment. Ken Starr called Secret Service agents guarding Bill Clinton during his criminal investigation. There is no way that a five day trial could cover what happened during the insurrection, and MANY questions are left unanswered.

The impeachment proceedings into the insurrection was NOT a "useless principle". Even if it would not have changed votes, it would have kept the matter before the American people and helped get to the root of what really happened. The Senate agreed to allow witnesses, and then no witnesses were called. Do you think that's ok? Don't get me wrong: the House Managers were brilliant. But they had limited evidence, because trump and the Republican Senate majority effectively prevented them from getting at that evidence. That's why witnesses were so important, as it allowed the possibility of getting more information (e.g., did Trump give specific orders for the insurrection, what is the real relationship between the Proud Boys and trump, etc. etc. etc.)

We may never know that now. It's like the Senate Watergate Committee leaving it at "well, these were Nixon's folks, so he's responsible, so that's that." It took multiple strands of pressure (Congressional and judicial proceedings) to get at the truth of what happened.

Look at how long the Rs dragged HRC through the coals on Benghazi. It wounded her badly. But with the insurrection, we have a five-day trial and no witnesses. That doesn't seem right.

Getting the Representative's statement into the record was no big deal. The House Managers could have done that on their own. They were routinely referring to newspaper articles etc during the trial. I don't see getting Herrera Beutler's statement "into the record" as any big deal personally.

Our nation is at death's door on many fronts. We elected Biden because we know he is capable of doing multiple things to fix the multiple failures. So can the Senate. And they need to play hard ball on EVERY one of these issues.

This article from Roll Call says it better than I can (and the fist-bump picture is nauseating): https://www.rollcall.com/2021/02/13/trump-acquitted/ . My teen-ager just let me know that "#trump2024" is top-trending. That's why this principle is not ridiculous.


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Blind Timewas Feb 2021 #1
Exactly. efhmc Feb 2021 #2
Why do they suggest Democrats needed mzmolly Feb 2021 #3
agree.. agingdem Feb 2021 #5
Exactly. mzmolly Feb 2021 #6
This! peggysue2 Feb 2021 #12
The Senate is capable of multi-tasking DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #4
Calling witnesses is a useless principle Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #7
The Senate can clearly create an Impeachment Committee and handle other business DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #8
It would not have changed the outcome Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #9
They can do both DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #10
Not as easy as you think Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #11
You're right. The end result was already baked in peggysue2 Feb 2021 #13
They just wanted a primetime shitfest to bring in the ad revenue. Fuck'em. OnDoutside Feb 2021 #14
They throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. pwb Feb 2021 #15
Absolutely done with Joy Reed cally Feb 2021 #16
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