I don't give a rat's ass WHO'S running in 2016 because...

[dreamnightwind]

50. Yeah, I found an old post of yours

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024017088

that pretty much clued me into where you are coming from.

I'm still going to disagree, very much so. Carry on crusading for 2014, it's a terrific place to put a lot of effort.

But there is a great need for energy towards a serious liberal challenge to the corporate Dems in 2016. And no I don't think it's too early, I think it needs to be chatted up as much as possible. There's a great chance that no serious challenge will happen, which would be tragic in my opinion, so there is no "too soon" for me.

If I was attempting to reduce people's 2014 efforts I would agree with you. And I get that people only have so much energy to expend, but we often have to put energy in multiple directions in this life. I think this is such a time.

This is a great article, you've probably seen it.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115509/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-nightmare
"There is a feature-length Hillary biopic in the works, and a well-funded super PAC—“Ready for Hillary”—bent on easing her way into the race."

Just an example of things happening on the Hillary side, I'm sure you know of much more. She's mobilizing but we're not supposed to discuss alternatives? Umm, no, not buying it.

I followed that OP of yours (linked at top of this reply) to another OP linked downthread, etc., anyway some good reading for me. You sound very interesting, someone that actually has been involved in campaigns, and some knowledge of donors and bundlers. In one of your posts (no link handy) you were discussing bundlers, I think you specifically mentioned Hillary's and Warren's. Does Warren actually have bundlers? I guess she would, for her senate campaign. Do these things exist separately for presidential runs? Just wondering if you were saying you have knowledge that Warren has people bundling donations for a possible presidential run.

Anyway, I hope I haven't pissed you and others off here, not my intention. I've watched so many times in my life as the left is left for dead, completely ignored, with nowhere else to go of course, while the corporate branch of the party, in my view, supports policies that just destroy any populist credibility this party has. Usually we notice too late that we've been had, again, and that there's nobody even remotely championing the issues we care about.

There are actually a few people these days that have the principles, backbone, and political standing to possibly do something, and our country and its government are fubar to a degree that many people are no longer wanting to settle for what the party hands us. This is an important time and an unusual one, where an actual redirection of the Democratic Party back towards the 99% could happen, especially if enough people are willing to make it the priority it deserves to be. It'll be be a very heavy lift (as will 2014), we'll see.