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kpete

(72,040 posts) Fri Nov 15, 2013, 01:06 PM Nov 2013

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The spinelessness leads to everything else... [View all]

But the spinelessness leads to everything else, IMHO.

If Obama had just stood there and told everyone, the whole point of the new law is so that insurance companies can't rip you off anymore, they have minimum standards they have to meet, and if your plan didn't meet those standards, they were just stealing from you -- and if every Democrat in Congress echoed the same talking points -- instead of this turning into, "ooh, the president lied to us" and him backpedaling furiously and looking weak and confused, it could be spun -- honestly -- as "the Democrats are protecting us from sleazy, predatory insurance companies."

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The spinelessness leads to everything else... [View all] kpete Nov 2013 OP

But, but, but ,,, that might have offended the insurance CEOs BlueStreak Nov 2013 #1

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Nov 2013 #52

Thank you. I needed that.. russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #2

I don't think he could do that since ACA requires you to purchase from those very companies. progressoid Nov 2013 #3

It was a move to calm the storm. It doesn't affect the big picture. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #7

A million enrolled sounds nice. progressoid Nov 2013 #10

Read that again. jeff47 Nov 2013 #15

Ok, I read it again. progressoid Nov 2013 #21

Right. There will be a million enrolled in ACA policies by Dec 15 BlueStreak Nov 2013 #28

The only problem with what you said is Keefer Nov 2013 #57

No they didn't. That was just an estimate BlueStreak Nov 2013 #60

I thought the whole point is they can't MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #11

They are allergic to straightforward and honest in Washington Armstead Nov 2013 #4

There are corporations to please. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #5

And Corporate Megalomaniacs to appease... n/t chervilant Nov 2013 #48

If the govment wont let us buy sleazy insurance, what next? Wont be able to use PayDay Loan Sharks? rhett o rick Nov 2013 #6

AMSCOT = too big to fail L0oniX Nov 2013 #53

well, that assumes spinelessness is the proximate cause stupidicus Nov 2013 #8

+1 - eom dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #41

Very True but it is to be expected when 'Democrats' try to implement GOP Policies Morphia Nov 2013 #44

I don't believe that BHO lied. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #9

What if the ACA is just an opportunity for the NSA to hoover up all our confidential medical info Ace Acme Nov 2013 #12

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2013 #16

The ACA brings in those who don't have relationships with the insurers. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #17

Because those people never got sick, right? jeff47 Nov 2013 #19

Few of the activists and dissidents I know have jobs with health insurance. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #22

You realize your two paragraphs utterly contradict each other, right? jeff47 Nov 2013 #24

I'll suppose that you can not conceive of the idea Ace Acme Nov 2013 #26

I'll suppose that you can not conceive of the idea jeff47 Nov 2013 #56

That's paranoid. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #61

Because we actually did land on the moon. jeff47 Nov 2013 #65

you must not know very many people pothos Nov 2013 #32

Contractors and Temporaries and Unemployed and UnderEmployed all live outside the healthcare system. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #35

again pothos Nov 2013 #37

There is now. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #39

I can guarantee you pothos Nov 2013 #23

You can guarantee that how? You must be well-connected. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #25

you must not be paying attention pothos Nov 2013 #33

You must think activists and dissidents make careless remarks on the phone. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #36

Email pchcenterzsk@mit.tc to receive your $1000000 lotto winnings. L0oniX Nov 2013 #54

Don't they answer the same questions when they are treated for tear-gas inhalation or taser burns jtuck004 Nov 2013 #43

That's paranoid. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #50

LOL. jtuck004 Nov 2013 #59

My what elequent smilies! But I can do better! Ace Acme Nov 2013 #62

You're confusing "ACA" with Social Security and "NSA" with The Trilateral Commission. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #58

The money drives the spinelessness. Orsino Nov 2013 #13

Let's see... xocet Nov 2013 #14

There has not been enough publicity of predatory insurance companies seveneyes Nov 2013 #18

Why do we persist in calling it "spinlessness?" That is not what it is! Dustlawyer Nov 2013 #20

And I agree with you too. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #47

I know. Hopefully most people won't tblue Nov 2013 #27

Obama's promise, unfortunately, was caused by dumbing down an over simplified talking point Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #29

Such promises afre one byproduct of spinelessness Armstead Nov 2013 #30

I disagree with you notion that it is due to cowardice. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #34

This legislation will stop ripoff insurance policies and allow you to get better affordable coverage Armstead Nov 2013 #42

because he knows he can both serve Big Insurance and have everyone claim "he's protecting us from MisterP Nov 2013 #31

That would have only worked if he could have increased subsidies. One of the problems with liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #38

A clean statement, to be sure. annabanana Nov 2013 #40

Yep Mostly Orbiting Nov 2013 #45

K&R. How can we not agree with this? Enthusiast Nov 2013 #46

He's not allowed to diss insurance companies. They're supposed to be "good" business. You know, like valerief Nov 2013 #49

Exactly. 99Forever Nov 2013 #51

You mean Max Baucus is a spineless panderer ...spokesperson? L0oniX Nov 2013 #55

Where do you think we live ? RagAss Nov 2013 #63

"The U.S. is currently facing a severe shortage of doctors." This may even be a worse situation. libdem4life Nov 2013 #64