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ProSense

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37. Actually,

Sun Nov 24, 2013, 09:48 AM

Nov 2013

Now, one way to do that is just to make health care cheaper overall. That’s I think the best way to do it, and that’s what we’ve been doing through some of the measures in the Affordable Care Act. There are some other provisions that we could take that would maintain our commitment to seniors, Medicare, Social Security, the disabled, and Medicaid, while still reducing very modestly the costs of those programs.

...costs are not benefits.

Krugman: Real Entitlement Reform
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024068848

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Remarks By Obama To The WSJ CEO Council...We Need To Cut SS & Medicare Benefits [View all] Oilwellian Nov 2013 OP

you really have an agenda if THOSE are the comments you isolate out of so many good points he made Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #1

Thank you. nt FLyellowdog Nov 2013 #3

Yes, I have an agenda Oilwellian Nov 2013 #4

yes. and when it is clear those are really on offer...you will watch a nuclear bomb of rage go off Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #5

You must have missed it in Obama's 2014 Budget Proposal Oilwellian Nov 2013 #10

looks like you didn't read it very closely. did you know people who are millionaires can draw SS? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #13

There are no protections for the elderly poor. They get an extra stipend which comes nowhere eridani Nov 2013 #25

You say that with the authority of someone who doesn't know Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #40

What is it with people who refuse to use Google? eridani Nov 2013 #65

I'm glad you agree cutting SS benefits is scary Oilwellian Nov 2013 #43

I'm not against raising the income cap for those taxes. I'm not against MH1 Nov 2013 #41

Raising the retirement age isn't what the Dem leadership is proposing Oilwellian Nov 2013 #42

Because what kind of depraved person wants to starve old people? MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #7

what are you on Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9

Exactly. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #66

"Borderline"? I'd say blatant. JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #27

Thanks for saying that. Whisp Nov 2013 #56

wow, I didn't get that at ALL from what he said. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #2

some people love to bring people down with falsely negative slants Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

kind of an oily way of looking at things Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #8

Now, now, that wasn't very nice n/t Oilwellian Nov 2013 #11

I have been feeling guilty ever since I posted it. Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #21

You can reduce cost of programs without reducing benefits. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #12

EXACTLY! It is already happening under ACA. You can also increase medicare contribution payroll Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #14

Acutally, it's Obama's 2014 Budget Proposal that says so n/t Oilwellian Nov 2013 #16

read my comment above about that. your red herring that old poor people are getting the shaft Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #17

Are you saying the Chained CPI won't cut our benefits? Oilwellian Nov 2013 #20

Yes, well... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #15

see my comments about your statement on 2014 budget above Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #18

I'm completely against any cuts to SS and Medicare. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #19

I guess Jackasses don't understand that "reform entitlements" might include raising the cap on SS. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #22

Obama spoke of raising the cap during his campaign, it was exciting to me and helped win my vote Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #34

It's not like the OP is filled with facts. Instead, it's based on speculation. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #44

It's glaringly obvious... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #46

Obama's "superlative CPI"...remember that? madfloridian Nov 2013 #67

Modesty dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #23

Strange how the President keeps asking for cuts that some people say he does not want Morphia Nov 2013 #24

Oh silly grasshopper ... Myrina Nov 2013 #30

Oh that nonsense again mmmm OK....... Morphia Nov 2013 #31

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Nov 2013 #38

Amazing. woo me with science Nov 2013 #39

Because he is with those that want to keep the gorilla in the room. L0oniX Nov 2013 #50

He works in mysterious ways, like God. We're just not smart enough... polichick Nov 2013 #51

Always thought he was ann--- Nov 2013 #26

A twice-elected Democratic President speaking of "reforming entitlements" ... Scuba Nov 2013 #28

Bogus bullshit headline. nt BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #29

Hmm. You misrepresent a quote and pre-emptively call those who will disagree "deniers" struggle4progress Nov 2013 #32

I misrepresented nothing Oilwellian Nov 2013 #35

As far as I can tell, Obama never said a word about cutting SS in that speech: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #61

Let's see... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #62

Of course, if you're concerned about chained CPI then you might more profitably post on that struggle4progress Nov 2013 #63

Manufacturing more "kick me" stickers for himself and Democrats jsr Nov 2013 #33

The President doesn't seem to understand... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #36

Actually, ProSense Nov 2013 #37

If Social Security and Medicare are ever cut it won't be the Dems' fault. gulliver Nov 2013 #45

You mean we should support the same Democrats who propose cutting benefits? Oilwellian Nov 2013 #47

Well, in a way. You should definitely support the Democrats. gulliver Nov 2013 #49

Personally... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #52

A quick note to younger people who think this is a fair idea: SoCalDem Nov 2013 #48

That settles it! Turbineguy Nov 2013 #53

Well, Obama did say this to the corporate CEOs Oilwellian Nov 2013 #58

Would not a general reduction in health care costs Turbineguy Nov 2013 #59

No we don't. But we do need to cut pols who keep pandering this nonsense! on point Nov 2013 #54

There is NO need to cut benefits or tamper with SS and Medicare duffyduff Nov 2013 #55

This is it, here it comes .... any second!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2013 #57

k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2013 #60

kick woo me with science Nov 2013 #64

Your headline promises Obama saying benefit cuts. None of your bolded quotes say that. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #68