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In reply to the discussion: So what's so bad about The Salvation Army anyway? [View all]Xolodno
(7,336 posts)...not going to change my mind.
But given your absolute...and using an analogy...what business does someone who was gay have with the Catholic Church or any organization that is opposed to someones beliefs? Oh and...I'm not Catholic. According to you, if a Bishop was at some supermarket trying to get donations for homeless, an orphanage they ran, a food kitchen etc. your response is...to put this bluntly...."go fuck off because you don't support LGBT rights". Now, I have serious issues with the Catholic Church...but if a member of their clergy asked for help in helping the less fortunate...if it be time or money...I would do what I can....and even if it was Mormon leader, I would still help out (and we all know what they have done on equality issues). Because at the end of the day, I will fight them 100% on everything I disagree with....but will be 100% behind on the issues I do agree with.
Why? That way they can get a clue. But just to be opposed to everything they do because of their stance on an issue...plays into exactly what they want. Its easy to manage a congregation, group, etc. when you tell them "abc told you to go fuck off, that's why we need to stay unified against them". It plays straight into the narratives...the only way to break that, is not fit the narrative. Give them a chance to see otherwise.
Lets make this real...If you are known in your community to be....actually toss that...it doesn't even matter....if you are known in your community, period.....and refuse to toss some pennies into a red can...how do you look and how will your arguments of equality look?
If that isn't plain enough...then let me try this...which sounds better?
1. I gave to xyz, don't like their stance on equality, but at least its to a good cause.
2. I told xyz to take a hike due to their stance on equality.
Oh and don't give me the "your lazy" bullshit to find charities. I do plenty of due diligence on this matter, but because I toss my change into a red can at the grocery store....suddenly I should be "persona non grata"...maybe I should vote repub since according to you I'm not up to your standards.