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Octafish

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23. ''ut nihil non iisdem verbis redderetur auditum.''
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:28 PM
Nov 2013

"Thus, nothing that has been heard can be retold in the same words."

Thank you, CanSocDem. It was amazing.

One of the important points covered in the discussion and play was Kennedy and his policy toward Vietnam. A member of the audience asked Douglas how he could be so certain that JFK would have pulled U.S. military support from South Vietnam? Douglass quoted Bobby Kennedy, who had been asked the same question by Arthur Schlessinger. RFK pounded the table and shouted:

"Because we were there!"



The Politician: In 1951, JFK (in rear right) in Vietnam on a fact finding tour with the French. Kennedy was critical of U.S. support of the French there, saying, "We have allied ourselves to the desperate effort of a French regime to hang on to the remnants of empire."

ETA Source: http://www.historyplace.com/kennedy/politician-vietnam-tour.htm

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Noah's Ark - Nov. 22, 1963 [View all] Octafish Nov 2013 OP
Thanks for letting us know about this play, Octafish! villager Nov 2013 #1
Please do. I did not think I would enjoy a staged reading... Octafish Nov 2013 #3
K&R RufusTFirefly Nov 2013 #2
I didn't want to interrupt Mr. Douglass as he signed books... Octafish Nov 2013 #4
Douglass RufusTFirefly Nov 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #5
What George H. W. Bush said on the White House ''smoking gun'' tape... Octafish Nov 2013 #6
My first thought was that Lemnitzer was behind the assassination. alfredo Nov 2013 #8
JFK vs. the Military Octafish Nov 2013 #16
As a former member of the ASA, I can attest to many of Bamford's accounts around the alfredo Nov 2013 #20
Former President Harry S Truman's CIA Op-Ed that ran for PART of one day in The Washington Post... Octafish Dec 2013 #31
It appeared to me that the intelligence professional was more like Colonel Flagg of MASH and alfredo Dec 2013 #32
Inaccurate info? Dulles, Lemnitzer. longship Nov 2013 #9
Excellent observation. President Kennedy fired Dulles in 1961. Octafish Nov 2013 #12
Thanks for correcting. I have corrected an OP of yours, too, this afternoon. longship Nov 2013 #13
That's it. ReRe Nov 2013 #10
Douglass was like beingwith Buddha... Octafish Nov 2013 #14
Personally... ReRe Nov 2013 #22
We could have rebuilt the energy grid with 100% renewable systems for the cost of the Iraq war... Octafish Dec 2013 #27
The only forward thinking in this country... ReRe Dec 2013 #30
I think shit would've turned out VERY different w/ Nixon in the WH during the Cuban Missile crisis. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #11
For decades, Nixon dreamed of nuking Vietnam. Octafish Nov 2013 #15
Have heard nothing but praise and respect for this book. Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #17
There's nothing like a good story to aid memory. Octafish Nov 2013 #18
Mark Lombardi....I remember that from old DU Days...Amazing stuff... KoKo Feb 2014 #36
kicking... CanSocDem Nov 2013 #19
''ut nihil non iisdem verbis redderetur auditum.'' Octafish Nov 2013 #23
I think we can assume that the Bay Of Pigs operation hootinholler Nov 2013 #21
Highly probable. Octafish Dec 2013 #25
Octafish, do you know if this play is coming to other parts of the U.S.? avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #24
The play is still a work in progress... Octafish Dec 2013 #26
I look forward to the info when you have the time. avaistheone1 Dec 2013 #35
Thanks Octafish! "JFK and the Unspeakable" was a wonderful book LongTomH Dec 2013 #28
We are using technology developed for the manned space program right now... Octafish Dec 2013 #29
Jim DiEugenio mentioned a production of this in Dallas MinM Dec 2013 #33
Thank you, MinM. Mr. Douglass is remarkable... Octafish Dec 2013 #34
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