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alphafemale

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12. Yeah.

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:48 AM

Nov 2013

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They just found his gun who no one else had owned with his prints on it.

And witnesses to him killing J.D. Tippet.

http://www.jdtippit.com/

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I just don't get why people can't accept that a punk-ass loser killed JFK [View all] alphafemale Nov 2013 OP

Ideology. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #1

I think the Lincoln assassination is the only US one with a conspiracy. alphafemale Nov 2013 #11

Not really right-wingers. Archae Nov 2013 #62

Assassins are not confined to ideology. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #64

I know. Archae Nov 2013 #77

Of course. That notion that there is such a thing as a military command called Southcom is a lie eridani Nov 2013 #125

And, of course, it has NOTHING to do with our government CONSISTENTLY lying to us, right? Th1onein Nov 2013 #162

Yes good example. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #171

Did I SAY that our government lies to us about EVERYTHING? Good example of twisting my words. Th1onein Nov 2013 #172

For one thing, no one saw Oswald shoot Kennedy Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #2

Yeah. alphafemale Nov 2013 #12

You use one of the UK's most notorious sensationalist tabloids as a source? Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #15

I thought the letter was touching. alphafemale Nov 2013 #24

Actually Oswald was witnessed firing the weapon out the window by several people cpwm17 Nov 2013 #70

Nobody identified Oswald. former9thward Nov 2013 #91

You have bad info cpwm17 Nov 2013 #97

And that person did not i.d. Oswald after he was arrested. former9thward Nov 2013 #98

Witnesses did give a correct description of Oswald before the police located Oswald cpwm17 Nov 2013 #101

No one identified him. former9thward Nov 2013 #111

Multiple witnesses who saw Oswald fleeing the scene identified him. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #123

Shell casings? meanit Nov 2013 #167

Reloaded while running from the scene, according to witnesses. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #168

he pulled the gun to try to shoot the officer that killed him in the theater. nt alphafemale Nov 2013 #180

Jack Ruby delrem Nov 2013 #3

Bigfoot. alphafemale Nov 2013 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Nov 2013 #151

Or maybe LHO didn't even DIE! alphafemale Nov 2013 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Nov 2013 #174

That the earth is round? alphafemale Nov 2013 #175

If Hinkley had a past that included BlueStreak Nov 2013 #155

True, maybe. But we're not discussing a counter-factual "Hinkley". delrem Nov 2013 #157

Quite the contrary. It is a huge anomaly. I agree with you. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #158

... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #4

... Fumesucker Nov 2013 #6

Ouch. Case Closed. Take that gerald. solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #8

the first story out there is the one you have to dispute... lame54 Nov 2013 #18

So this means the Loch Ness monster is real? alphafemale Nov 2013 #21

I'm not sure how US government officials might benefit from the Loch Ness monster... Fumesucker Nov 2013 #132

Tell your opinions on the Boston bombing again...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #44

Again? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #131

Double check the thread tree... SidDithers Nov 2013 #134

and that also means we never went to the moon? nt alphafemale Nov 2013 #20

No, it means that government officials do not always tell the truth Fumesucker Nov 2013 #133

What's frustrating is belief that "do not always tell the truth" means "always lies with competence" Bucky Nov 2013 #138

Nevertheless we went to war in Iraq, the neocons got what they wanted Fumesucker Nov 2013 #146

I was talking about the truth eventually getting out, not people being willing dupes Bucky Nov 2013 #148

It was inevitable the truth was eventually going to get out about Iraq because there were no WMDs. Fumesucker Nov 2013 #164

Yep, no conspiracy there. RC Nov 2013 #83

That's some funny shit right there Spider... catnhatnh Nov 2013 #56

This!: More broadly, it's a tendency to focus on intention and agency, rather than randomness... Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #81

Most people have been intentionally harmed at some point in their lives, it's not that uncommon Fumesucker Nov 2013 #165

I think that most people do accept that. Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #5

John Hinckley's parents knew the Bush family socially. alphafemale Nov 2013 #22

That's one example.... Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #26

And Edwin Booth saved the life of Robert Todd Lincoln alphafemale Nov 2013 #28

Ha, Another very good one. Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #29

I think it was just the day before and it was his brother Bucky Nov 2013 #139

And that bothers you? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #7

I think...amuses alphafemale Nov 2013 #16

It amuses me how people can accept the WC. former9thward Nov 2013 #30

"In 1979, Congress investigated the assassination..." nyquil_man Nov 2013 #33

yes, so did the three LATER congressional investigations, including the one in 1996 librechik Nov 2013 #35

Are you referring to the Assassination Records Review Board, nyquil_man Nov 2013 #38

what part of look it up is unclear? librechik Nov 2013 #39

There are facts, yes. Your assertion is not among them. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #42

I recommend Lamar Waldron's new book, "The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination" n/t librechik Nov 2013 #73

Or you could just name those three post-HSCA investigations. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author librechik Nov 2013 #87

I hope newbies such as yourself appreciate the opportunity librechik Nov 2013 #90

You seem to have enough outrage for both of us. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #92

Check my post. former9thward Nov 2013 #40

Your 'skepticism' dies a quick (and apparently painless) death nyquil_man Nov 2013 #43

The government is not a monolithic entity. Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #45

I didn't invent the dichotomy. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #51

I am arguing a general point. Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #53

I'd like to think we're all selective as to what we believe or don't believe. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #61

Well you could say that if someone gave opinions on 100 government studies. former9thward Nov 2013 #46

You damn the government for sloppy work on the Warren Report nyquil_man Nov 2013 #48

You have given your summary and interpretation in two sentences. former9thward Nov 2013 #50

It would prove no more and add no more nyquil_man Nov 2013 #52

"incurious dupes of the government" former9thward Nov 2013 #57

That's fine. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #76

I have too. former9thward Nov 2013 #88

You are amused, and your heart is broken. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #31

OK... yeah my heart does break for ranting idiots. alphafemale Nov 2013 #107

Zing! Mc Mike Nov 2013 #177

I'd say you're spot on. Puglover Nov 2013 #58

Because he had ties to the CIA.. sendero Nov 2013 #9

I just think the "spooks" would have been much less sloppy about it alphafemale Nov 2013 #19

They were. sendero Nov 2013 #32

OK alphafemale Nov 2013 #34

Not necessarily. It depends on their goals and how much institutional support they had BlueStreak Nov 2013 #170

Ironically, DU was founded on the wide belief that GWB stole the 2000 election... pacalo Nov 2013 #10

No connection. alphafemale Nov 2013 #17

Except that the SCOTUS stepping in was ANYTHING BUT normal procedure librechik Nov 2013 #36

Glad you feel that way. alphafemale Nov 2013 #103

+100000000 Th1onein Nov 2013 #163

But what those two did not have treestar Nov 2013 #14

I think we can determine he was phycho alphafemale Nov 2013 #23

please. stop! You're killing me! librechik Nov 2013 #37

There are still going to be conspiracy theories treestar Nov 2013 #74

They can't accept that lake loon Nov 2013 #25

For further reading ... lake loon Nov 2013 #27

The Warren Commission knew they were expected to reach a pre-determined conclusion - no conspiracy. JohnyCanuck Nov 2013 #47

Jury Results: X_Digger Nov 2013 #41

I was alerted for this? alphafemale Nov 2013 #65

LOL, Someone alerted this. Hurt feelings I assume. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #67

I think some here keep a Flow Chart of Imagined Grievances. alphafemale Nov 2013 #99

Good point. I love the ignore announcements. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #100

FFS. Juror 1 is wrong, the OP called the assassins psychos treestar Nov 2013 #75

....who managed to fire multiple perfect shots in a short amount of time from long distance ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #49

With one of the most inaccurate rifles ever manufactured TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #55

Got a link about how crappy the rifle was? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #59

No link but the testimony of 2 gun collectors in 1969. TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #71

Others disagree. They are very accurate out to 650 yards. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #82

"Inaccurate", not true. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #113

Not that hard of a shot...really. alphafemale Nov 2013 #69

Bullshit. Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #79

Here is video proof your facts are wrong. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #84

Some simulated tests that have been done exboyfil Nov 2013 #93

The Hathcock quote... GKirk Nov 2013 #105

Your confirmation bias is showing. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #115

My educated guess... MinM Nov 2013 #54

Patsy who was sheep dipped but Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #63

Got a link? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #86

Some witnesses to the bullet hole in the JFK limosine's windshield JohnyCanuck Nov 2013 #120

I am not seeing it with my own eyes in the photos of the Limo at Parkland. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #137

That is not a bullet hole, it is a crack. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #145

Thanks. And is that blood splatter? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #149

75 Years Bobcat Nov 2013 #60

Stop repeating that 75 year meme. Its not true. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #89

Because a single gunman scares them. That it was possible for a lone nut to kill the leader.... Logical Nov 2013 #66

It's ALWAYS been a lone nut that has killed a President. alphafemale Nov 2013 #72

Not true. Lincoln was killed by a conspiracy (of losers, but still a conspiracy) Bucky Nov 2013 #140

I don't get this big push supporting the WCR and why it bothers people that doc03 Nov 2013 #68

Government Propaganda Is the Only Source That Supports Oswald As The Assassin cantbeserious Nov 2013 #80

Or at least the sole assassin. RC Nov 2013 #109

This is a walloping, goofy, weak form of straw man. Springslips Nov 2013 #143

You think there is anything to Oswald's ties to the anti-Castro Cubans in Miami? B Calm Nov 2013 #85

50 years of inconclusive, bullshit conspiracy talk made me an Oswald believer. Paladin Nov 2013 #94

I've got two reasons, one reasonable and one questionable Nevernose Nov 2013 #95

I just don't get why people can't accept that ... 99Forever Nov 2013 #96

It's because people can't handle... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #102

It is simply not a cut and dried case. The stomping of the feet and insisting Jetboy Nov 2013 #104

Actually not. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #106

That is me as well. alphafemale Nov 2013 #118

Actually yes. Jetboy Nov 2013 #121

Nope. I am saying, come at me bro...with good evidence that is. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #135

THIS thread is about why some of us are unconviced that LHO acted alone in Jetboy Nov 2013 #150

So, you are saying you are convinced of JFK CT because you get bullied on DU when you present CT? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #153

I am convinced of nothing. Jetboy Nov 2013 #154

Keep digging? The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #159

Just because someone attempts to bully another doesn't Jetboy Nov 2013 #160

After Watching The New Frontline Last Week otohara Nov 2013 #108

It took me a long time to accept that. alphafemale Nov 2013 #114

His loser nickname in the Marines was "shitbird" BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #110

Who made fun of that freak who killed 20 babies in Sandy Hook? alphafemale Nov 2013 #112

Shitbird is not a nickname for an individual, it's a term for someone insufficiently gung ho Fumesucker Nov 2013 #166

A "shit-bird" meanit Nov 2013 #169

I have an easy time believing it, because I'm surprised more assassinations haven't succeeded Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #116

"The government also has a poor track record when it comes to keeping secrets that big." solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #122

Actually, overall, true. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #124

Simple: doesn't add up. polichick Nov 2013 #117

There are so many conspiracy theories, they can't all be right...but they CAN all be wrong brooklynite Nov 2013 #119

There was a documentary hosted by Eric Severeid that weekend in 1963 duffyduff Nov 2013 #126

LHO was 24? alphafemale Nov 2013 #127

Couple of years in Minsk will do that to ya Bucky Nov 2013 #141

He was probably a clinical Springslips Nov 2013 #152

Fromme, Moore and Hinckley all left paper trails that proved motive Warpy Nov 2013 #128

"We don't know Oswald's motive" != "Oswald had no motive" Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #136

The warped logic of conspiracy theorist. Springslips Nov 2013 #147

I personally believe that Oswald killed JKF all by himself. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #129

And sometimes, it's natural to think that something isn't quite right Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #161

I could accept it if it were true--but it ain't! Peace Patriot Nov 2013 #130

A punk-ass loser may have killed JFK. But it wasn't Oswald. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #142

Yeah, they do Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #144

Maybe it's because people are distrustful of the government's version of what happened on that day. Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2013 #156

I just don't get why people are such simple minded lemmings LordGlenconner Nov 2013 #176

evidence proving not one shooter larkrake Nov 2013 #178

so you think the House Select Committee on Assassinations conclusions were wrong? yurbud Nov 2013 #179