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In reply to the discussion: No charges ever pressed: Assange marks three years of UK detention [View all]

joshcryer

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358. Consent was obviously breached under Swedish law.
Reply to msanthrope (Reply #298)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:10 AM
Dec 2013

And under any damn common sense, btw.

You don't penetrate someone without a condom if they predicate their consent on having worn a condom. I could start a thread every day asking "is it consent if I penetrate a someone without a condom without telling them and after they predicated sex on wearing a condom?" and every single day the majority of DU would say "No, that is non-consensual."

There would be the few outliers who think that just because someone had sex with someone the night before they can penetrate them in a groggy state for surprise wake up sex, without a condom, when the night before a condom was required for the act to begin with.

But those outliers are idiots.

They got his DNA. He's done. The questioning phase is a mere formality. And it's probably not done because once the charges are filed (going above and beyond to help Assange out) Ecuador would call it under their jurisdiction, call for a show trial, and then release him under time served.

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No charges ever pressed: Assange marks three years of UK detention [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP
He has the power to end his own detention 4now Dec 2013 #1
There are zero "rape charges filed against him." 99Forever Dec 2013 #2
+1. Nt newfie11 Dec 2013 #3
Assange stands accused under Swedish law BainsBane Dec 2013 #346
Only because he won't go to Sweden to answer them. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #4
Blah blah blah.. 99Forever Dec 2013 #6
"if that is what blows your dress up" xulamaude Dec 2013 #12
Yeah, assange would rather sit in his little room blowing Cha Dec 2013 #16
I wonder how many women he has since assaulted BainsBane Dec 2013 #94
I see your point, BB I didn't even stop to think Cha Dec 2013 #99
Do you mind if I post that in HOF? BainsBane Dec 2013 #103
Of course, I don't mind.. please do! Cha Dec 2013 #106
Wow, you two are way off in la-la land. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #253
That is the MO of sexual assailants BainsBane Dec 2013 #255
Even when the charges against them are trumped up? RC Dec 2013 #281
Assange admitted to the acts alleged in the EAW. That was the basis of his legal argument against msanthrope Dec 2013 #298
An important reminder, Mysanthrope. Thank you. pnwmom Dec 2013 #331
They don't read them because they do not care BainsBane Dec 2013 #347
The rape apologia is pushed by a very small group of the "Left." Actual progressives msanthrope Dec 2013 #389
Consent was obviously breached under Swedish law. joshcryer Dec 2013 #358
The UK ruled that what he did was sexual assault in the UK and the rest of the msanthrope Dec 2013 #390
trumped up? BainsBane Dec 2013 #345
No, I think governments are lier's. RC Dec 2013 #388
At least one lady in question got a rape kit done. joshcryer Dec 2013 #362
+100 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #262
"Real agenda"? paranoid much? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #19
Bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2013 #22
... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #24
Your horseshit claims have been addressed ad nausium. 99Forever Dec 2013 #32
How do you manage to type... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #36
How do you manage to post with that nose problem of yours? 99Forever Dec 2013 #38
You're the one engaged in the cult of personality BainsBane Dec 2013 #349
Blah blah blah.. 99Forever Dec 2013 #381
You've addressed nothing BainsBane Dec 2013 #348
"If the facts are on his side he has nothing to fear from a trial." nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #64
And why should we fear government surveillance if we have nothing to hide? MNBrewer Dec 2013 #148
non-sequitur BainsBane Dec 2013 #350
exactly like steubenville? GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #379
You are seriously arguing that Sweden is a closer US ally than the UK. jeff47 Dec 2013 #45
Actually the "line" is the court record BainsBane Dec 2013 #95
Yeah right... 99Forever Dec 2013 #204
Sorry for the news, but did you see Warren isn't running? snooper2 Dec 2013 #137
C'mon now, would you tell a kid there's no Santa Claus? brooklynite Dec 2013 #150
She "isn't running" at this moment. 99Forever Dec 2013 #205
You seem to have such a way with words. pnwmom Dec 2013 #332
+100000 The propaganda machine is as predictable as rain woo me with science Dec 2013 #59
The propaganda is on the part of the Assange apologists BainsBane Dec 2013 #96
Oh, that's priceless. Thank you for that. woo me with science Dec 2013 #173
Those links made for great reading. I'd missed them previously Matariki Dec 2013 #308
That's superb. Thank you for posting it again. woo me with science Dec 2013 #322
Yes, it seems to be true. Matariki Dec 2013 #325
I see BainsBane Dec 2013 #352
BainsBane I said this before, I appreciate your strong stand on women's issues Matariki Dec 2013 #396
Pure bullshit BainsBane Dec 2013 #351
Yes, anyone with a brain does know the real agenda BainsBane Dec 2013 #67
Bullshit. No text required. 99Forever Dec 2013 #85
Are you still refusing to read the court documents? BainsBane Dec 2013 #113
Bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2013 #122
It's like a two year olds temper tantrum... Agschmid Dec 2013 #127
throw out the names polanski, dfk or edwards and you get the same. at least, she is consistent seabeyond Dec 2013 #134
I have to say BainsBane Dec 2013 #353
Clearly the facts are too much for you, so you start name-calling instead. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #329
They had their chance while he waited for them in Sweden; & remain welcome to come to him. snot Dec 2013 #257
... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #258
Even if this were reliable/accurate, it's irrelevant to my statement. snot Dec 2013 #259
That's not how it works. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #260
They had their chance? BainsBane Dec 2013 #354
Once he shows up in Sweden, the there will be. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #5
A woman (and Assange supporter) filed a claim of rape with their government against him. It may not okaawhatever Dec 2013 #17
+1 LittleBlue Dec 2013 #41
Actually, your two points are quite wrong. jeff47 Dec 2013 #49
I understand perfectly LittleBlue Dec 2013 #53
Really? #2 is your problem? jeff47 Dec 2013 #60
What a pathetically stupid argument you make LittleBlue Dec 2013 #63
No, pathetic is responding like that. jeff47 Dec 2013 #65
No, pathetic is putting forth arguments that you know are false LittleBlue Dec 2013 #68
If those arguments were so terrible, you wouldn't be desperately ignoring them. jeff47 Dec 2013 #92
Assange will not leave Ecuador embassy even if Sweden drops extradition bid (Guardian | 18 Jun 13) struggle4progress Dec 2013 #116
A blatant distortion of facts in order to protect an accused sexual assailant BainsBane Dec 2013 #61
"The Assange apologists are no different from the people in Steubenville"... SidDithers Dec 2013 #66
Despite your attempts to smear the rape charges have been dropped. former9thward Dec 2013 #77
Assange has an active order to appear before the Swedish court AS THE LINKED COURT DOCUMENTS SHOW BainsBane Dec 2013 #90
I quoted the prosecutor's office. former9thward Dec 2013 #123
You cherry picked an old and outdated article hack89 Dec 2013 #125
Has the prosecutor taken back her comments? former9thward Dec 2013 #126
Her boss took back her comments for her when she reopened the case at the request of the victims hack89 Dec 2013 #128
No, the office never took back the comments. former9thward Dec 2013 #131
One rape charge, one unlawful coercion charge and two charges of sexual molestation hack89 Dec 2013 #132
Do you know the definition of "rape" in Swedish law? former9thward Dec 2013 #143
Unwanted sex with a sleeping woman is rape in most countries, including America hack89 Dec 2013 #145
The Swedish authorities are free to question him in London. former9thward Dec 2013 #152
Because they cannot arrest him in London, a point you insist on ignoring hack89 Dec 2013 #155
Assange's lawyers dragged that argument through the UK courts and lost: the Swedes, according struggle4progress Dec 2013 #191
"new and special rules invented by crackpots" ? former9thward Dec 2013 #215
You should reread the post #191 to which you are responding, because the actual issue here struggle4progress Dec 2013 #223
He fled nothing Major Nikon Dec 2013 #264
Assange's lawyer Hurtig testified at Belmarsh that he was told on 15 September 2010 struggle4progress Dec 2013 #294
There's a few things you're missing Major Nikon Dec 2013 #307
"Mr Hurtig is an unreliable witness" according to the Findings of Facts and Reasons struggle4progress Dec 2013 #312
He's Assange's lawyer, not a witness Major Nikon Dec 2013 #315
Translation: "I haven't actually read any of the extradition hearing materials" struggle4progress Dec 2013 #316
If you feel the need to put words in other DUer's mouth to make your arguments... Major Nikon Dec 2013 #317
Had you read the documents, you would know Assange's Swedish lawyer WAS a witness at Belmarsh struggle4progress Dec 2013 #323
No more so than any other defense lawyer Major Nikon Dec 2013 #324
Had you read the link #294 I gave you, you couldn't say "No more so than any other defense lawyer"" struggle4progress Dec 2013 #327
You link to reporting on the Svea Court of Appeal case: they upheld the arrest warrant for Assange struggle4progress Dec 2013 #330
I never claimed otherwise Major Nikon Dec 2013 #333
The testimony of Hurtig at Belmarsh was not that Assange notified the prosecutors that Assange struggle4progress Dec 2013 #335
The arrest warrant was not issued until 2 months after Assange left the country Major Nikon Dec 2013 #339
Assange has evidently never had any intention to submit to further Swedish process here struggle4progress Dec 2013 #343
If they charge him in the embassy Ecuador can take on the case. joshcryer Dec 2013 #364
The woman in question texted a friend after the fact saying she wasn't asleep Major Nikon Dec 2013 #263
So Assange most likely will be acquitted, won't he? hack89 Dec 2013 #267
Would you go? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #268
Are Swedish juries known to be fair and impartial? hack89 Dec 2013 #271
Another option is enough people figure out the 2nd prosecutor is a fraud Major Nikon Dec 2013 #274
The interview should not be an issue as long as Assange agrees to surrender hack89 Dec 2013 #275
Under Swedish law, a complainant can appeal a prosecutor's decision not to prosecute a case --- struggle4progress Dec 2013 #297
Sex without a condom when a condom was requested is, too. joshcryer Dec 2013 #359
You quoted a bullshit and outdated 2010 article that gave the view of Assange's lawyers BainsBane Dec 2013 #188
This sub-thread has been sublime. The cries of "propaganda!' hurled at the ones who are listening, Number23 Dec 2013 #196
"Gave the view of Assange's lawyers" former9thward Dec 2013 #278
Your distortion of the legal record means I am not "smearing" your great man BainsBane Dec 2013 #91
I quoted the prosecutor's office. former9thward Dec 2013 #124
The same prosecutor's office that reopened a RAPE investigation shortly thereafter? hack89 Dec 2013 #133
The authoritarians have fallen all over themselves trying to discredit Snowden and Assange. former9thward Dec 2013 #144
So Sweden doesn't get to define what constitutes sexual crimes in their country? Ok. hack89 Dec 2013 #146
They discredit themselves over and over. Outside 'help' is not even needed at this point. randome Dec 2013 #149
Snowden will be testifying before the EU. former9thward Dec 2013 #154
It has not been decided if he will testify or not. randome Dec 2013 #175
Well let them know what the testimony will be. former9thward Dec 2013 #203
Sweden and other EU countries have an agreement that they can interview suspects in sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #180
Swedish law, oddly, takes the view that crimes committed in the Realm of Sweden are to be prosecuted struggle4progress Dec 2013 #190
Sweden of course has the opinion of all democracies, that they have the right to file charges sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #202
Your claims have been answered repeatedly in this thread and in many previous threads: struggle4progress Dec 2013 #214
And this is why I never, ever answer Sabrina's questions. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #233
It's like playing chess with a pigeon... SidDithers Dec 2013 #248
I'm lucky. joshcryer Dec 2013 #360
+1 and thanks. Matariki Dec 2013 #62
It's a willful distortion of the facts. BainsBane Dec 2013 #93
I disagree Matariki Dec 2013 #187
You are being deliberately obtuse. pnwmom Dec 2013 #328
Hyperbole? Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #8
Exposing Bush War Crimes now being opposed by the 'Left'. Amazing, isnt it? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #10
No, it's called holding him responsible for his actions. The woman who claimed rape was one of his okaawhatever Dec 2013 #18
It's going on four years, WHERE ARE THE CHARGES? There ARE none because it NEVER HAPPENED. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #27
I've explained to you multiple times that Swedish law is not the same as US law. jeff47 Dec 2013 #52
That's why this country is doomed. tblue Dec 2013 #56
Bush has nothing to do with it treestar Dec 2013 #242
Death sentences? The DOJ is unlikely to file any kind of charges bhikkhu Dec 2013 #26
Why has the Swedins Prosecutor not filed any charges against him? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #28
I'm afraid I don't know a thing about the issues in Sweden bhikkhu Dec 2013 #30
It is more than a farce, it is a crime, a crime against the people to try to silence those who tell sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #78
Its hard to get to worked up over a crime involving no charges or prosecution bhikkhu Dec 2013 #100
You know that the UK court, the same one that refused to extradite Pinochet btw, granted the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #158
He has diplomatic asylum, not political asylum hack89 Dec 2013 #165
He is 'stuck' because the UK will not grant him safe passage to the country which sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #178
The UK is not legally required by international law to give him safe passage hack89 Dec 2013 #181
Lol, Assange and Ecuador are not the ones in a 'mess'. They have accomplished the goal sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #245
He is still trapped like a rat hack89 Dec 2013 #266
That's been explained over and over treestar Dec 2013 #40
No it hasn't. Just post the Charges filed in the Swedish Court against Assange and that sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #172
Why do the charges have to be filed for extradition to take place? treestar Dec 2013 #195
What??? Charges do NOT have to be filed in order for a member state of the EU to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #210
Well you must know EU law and extraction law better than the high court of Britain treestar Dec 2013 #237
The thing that is funny is that in the UK courts davidpdx Dec 2013 #272
And international law is far more complex than domestic law treestar Dec 2013 #293
Swedish law is not the same as US law. jeff47 Dec 2013 #50
The Swedish Prosecutor has refused to conduct the necessary interview for over three years sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #169
Again, the Swedish system is not the US system. jeff47 Dec 2013 #171
Stop making stuff up please. The facts of this case are simple. Sweden files charges against sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #174
I'm not making stuff up. You are continuing to be wrong. jeff47 Dec 2013 #192
Yes, Swedish law requires an interview with the subject before filing charges. At last, some facts sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #213
So are you going to apologize? jeff47 Dec 2013 #285
So you haven't been reading the thread at all? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #301
Assange broke no laws in Sweden? Which is why Sweden filed a European Arrest Warrant? nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #314
Just post the charges filed in a Swedish Court claiming he broke any laws there, and we can sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #326
Your Anglo exceptionalism in judicial matters is intriguing. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #334
Post the charges filed against Assange in Sweden or anywhere else. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #337
And we're back to you insisting every justice system is the US justice system. jeff47 Dec 2013 #395
Stop with the nonsense, it's getting old. Sweden charges people with crimes every day, just like sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #397
I'm not the one posting nonsense. jeff47 Dec 2013 #406
Bullshit. He's hidden out in the Ecuadorian embassy BainsBane Dec 2013 #355
Where are the charges?? That is the ONLY relevant question. I have asked, over and over again sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #398
There is an arrest warrant BainsBane Dec 2013 #400
All irrelevant. I have read all of it and it all it says is that the Western Powers, the UK being sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #402
Not true BainsBane Dec 2013 #403
Where were the witnesses, the evidence? Right, there was none, because what you have linked to is sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #404
There was an arrest warrent for Bin Laden... PoliticAverse Dec 2013 #405
I did not say there was no arrest warrant for Bin Laden. Read my comment again. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #407
Assange's lawyers were free to argue this matter in the UK courts but decided not to do so struggle4progress Dec 2013 #118
The UK court has no jurisidiction in Sweden. That was an EXTRADTION HEARING. The UK CANNOT sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #399
There ARE no CHARGES. Might help if peope commenting on this story actually knew something sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #9
+ 1,000! KoKo Dec 2013 #15
There are charges. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #20
Wrong!! There have never been charges filed against Assange in Sweden or anywhere else. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #25
It is not a lie; your ignorance of Swedish law doesn't trump facts. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #29
Please list the charges and the court in which they were filed. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #33
Again: Sweden doesn't have the US legal system. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #35
This has been repeatedly explained to Sabrina, on many different threads. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #39
Just ist thre charges and the court in which they were filed. It's not that hard. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #72
You are being the distraction here. Agschmid Dec 2013 #129
Go ahead and explain the ''Swedish Legal System' to me or if you like sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #140
I linked in #184 \a very detailed discussion of Swedish criminal procedure. Why not read it? struggle4progress Dec 2013 #304
I am very familiar with Swedish law. The fact is that NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #309
Those actually interested in Swedish criminal procedure will, I think, read the links struggle4progress Dec 2013 #313
You're wasting your time there... SidDithers Dec 2013 #48
Assange had never been charged with any crimes. Please list the court and the charges filed sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #74
Assange had never been charged with any crimes. Please list the court and the charges filed sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #74
So you can't ist the charges, thank you. Assange has never been charged with a crime sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #70
Functional illiteracy is a terrible thing. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #105
Read the court documents yourself BainsBane Dec 2013 #114
I've read them all. Over and over. Now please either show the formal Charges you are claiming sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #141
How about looking at it like this? randome Dec 2013 #147
How about looking at the FACTS. There have been NO charges, Swedish Style which is what matters sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #156
"in accordance with SWEDISH LAW' " - so show us the actual Swedish law hack89 Dec 2013 #167
Swedish Charges, filed in a Swedish Court. Please provide evidence that this has ever happened. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #177
Show that it has to happen that way. You sound so sure of yourself hack89 Dec 2013 #179
Show that what has to happen, what way?? What are you asking for? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #182
You disagree with everyone here that Swedish legal procedures are different than the UK and USA hack89 Dec 2013 #183
Lol, you mean I have been given false information by a small crew of peope here who have no clue sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #217
Invincible ignorance is still ignorance hack89 Dec 2013 #228
Oh that's for sure. But still, no information from you as to the CHARGES filed against Assange by sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #230
What did the document say about how charges are waged in the Swedish justice system? BainsBane Dec 2013 #189
discussions with sabrina would be more interesting if sabrina posted links or read the links struggle4progress Dec 2013 #117
Just post the formal charges filed by the Swedish Prosecutor in a Swedish court and you won't sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #151
Overview of Swedish Criminal Procedure (January 2012) struggle4progress Dec 2013 #184
Swedish Prosecutor General confirms Julian Assange is “charged” struggle4progress Dec 2013 #185
... On numerous occasions we have heard Julian Assange say that he is not charged with any crime. struggle4progress Dec 2013 #186
Sabrina Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #43
Frequently does. Never seems to make even the slightest bit of difference though. Number23 Dec 2013 #89
Please post the charges you all are claiming were filed in the Swedish Court against Assange. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #161
There's an arrest warrant out in Sweden treestar Dec 2013 #194
What are the charges? Could you post the charges filed in Sweden so we know what this sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #221
I answered that in my post above. treestar Dec 2013 #236
Thank you for finally admitting the obvious. There are no charges against Assange. So what is the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #239
So the UK legal system can be forever ignored because you don't like the result of the Pinochet case treestar Dec 2013 #241
I think the frenzied breakdown on this thread is pretty amusing though. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #162
It's good, but I don't think much will ever top the "Homeland Security was cracking down on Occupy" Number23 Dec 2013 #193
!!!! zappaman Dec 2013 #310
+10000000...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #121
Please post the charges filed in a Swedish Court against Assange. I'm still waiting. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #153
LEAVE JULIAN AWONE!11!1! *sob* dionysus Dec 2013 #55
Maybe you can help. Post the filing of charges in the Swedish Court that a few misinformed people sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #159
The poor man has suffered so much injustice! treestar Dec 2013 #197
Answer what? He has not been charged with any crimes in Sweden. Why would someone go to 'answer' sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #218
I dunno, there is an extradition out, supposedly the courts in Britain would ignore it treestar Dec 2013 #235
Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2013 #46
Please post the charges filed in the Swedish Court. The US system has ZERO to do with Sweden sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #160
He'll never be charged because he'll never go set foot on their soil... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #37
Wrong, he doesn't have to set foot on that soil in order to be charged. He will never be charged sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #157
It's very odd that you of all people... Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #164
Why? I don't think I've ever presented myself as someone who does not believe sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #170
The rape apologists are funny, no? Bush can't go to Malaysia. joshcryer Dec 2013 #385
I understand what you meant and agree. If he didn't do it, he shouldn't worry about answering okaawhatever Dec 2013 #11
Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about this farce?? Did you know that he stayed in Sweden sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #21
No, I'm familiar. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean i'm wrong. I also think he is/was okaawhatever Dec 2013 #23
Just list the charges and in which court they were filed. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #34
He isn't worried. He WAS interviewed by the Swedish Police, he offered to remain in Sweden to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #31
So you are accusing Sweden of some sort of corruption? treestar Dec 2013 #198
Post the charges filled in Sweden by the Sweden Prosecutors. That is the issue here that a few sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #206
No, the issue is that the British Courts consider extradition proper treestar Dec 2013 #238
The same 'British Court' that refused to grant the request for the extradition of Pinochet, a sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #243
What has that got to do with it? treestar Dec 2013 #270
In fact, sabrina's post is factually incorrect. The Pinochet case is actually quite confusing. Spain struggle4progress Dec 2013 #306
It was unique in international law, thus vastly different from treestar Dec 2013 #319
The decision not to extradite Pinochet from the UK to Spain was not a judicial decision: struggle4progress Dec 2013 #300
I don't waste time on people who are knee-jerk reacting to issues, I just use their comments to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #303
In that case, Chile itself objected to Spanish extradition request: Pinochet was returned to Chile struggle4progress Dec 2013 #305
Wouldn't that be splendid? treestar Dec 2013 #320
Welcome Back HangOnKids Dec 2013 #69
The perfect authoritarian message cprise Dec 2013 #212
Hilarious, isn't it? And no charges have ever been filed against him leading to the conclusion in sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #225
I guess it is authoritarian to go along with any legal system then treestar Dec 2013 #240
No I haven't said that cprise Dec 2013 #265
What a farce alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #7
Our Government Leaders want to STARVE HIM OUT! Like the GITMO Prisoners KoKo Dec 2013 #13
Apt comparison jsr Dec 2013 #135
He has all the food and visitors he wants hack89 Dec 2013 #136
Um...he's in sight of Marks & Spencer's. How could he possibly starve? nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #139
Sorry...Glitch posted this twice. KoKo Dec 2013 #14
Creating a website to leak classified docs doesn't give you carte blanche to go around raping people Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #42
Please post the case transcripts that prove the allegation you just made. Or even post any sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #207
LOL Sabrina Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #208
Thank you. I appreciate that! But you avoided answering any of my questions. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #209
Hugz to you Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #211
And yet he isn't... now is he! whistler162 Dec 2013 #44
Fuck 'em. Hope he rots in the Ecuadoran embassy... SidDithers Dec 2013 #47
you leave the sweet bebe jesus alone Sid! dionysus Dec 2013 #57
St. Julian, patron saint of fugitives and bail jumpers...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #58
Are you talkin' about the guy who Cha Dec 2013 #84
you better leave that little hero in swaddling clothes alone buster, or you're gonna get it! dionysus Dec 2013 #108
Yeah, I Cha Dec 2013 #111
Gee he might miss your posts Sid HangOnKids Dec 2013 #71
Assange can end his detention whenever he wants. tammywammy Dec 2013 #51
Assange is not in detention. He sought and was granted political asylum due to the threat to his sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #163
Diplomatic not political asylum. There is a huge difference hack89 Dec 2013 #168
Wrong, Julian Assange sought and was granted Political Asylum. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #342
Sabrina - thank you so much for your posts Matariki Dec 2013 #336
Thank you. It's not hard really, the same false statements are made every time this issue arises. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #338
He ought to go get it over with. I don't think the US is going to grab him. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #54
Chelsea Manning assured his freedom. joshcryer Dec 2013 #101
Can't he leave the embassy any time he wants? Renew Deal Dec 2013 #73
Yes. n/t tammywammy Dec 2013 #79
But then the UK will probably file charges for jumping bail! And when he's extradited to Sweden struggle4progress Dec 2013 #97
Yes, if he wants to place himself in danger of being grabbed by the Swedish Karl Rove puppets sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #166
I believe he will spend years there, JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #76
It's very surreal, the embassy sounds tiny... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #80
Things went bad for Assange ... JEFF9K Dec 2013 #81
it really does not matter how he defines it. he needs to go back to his day in court. rapists seabeyond Dec 2013 #82
'His day in court'. Where are the Charges in Sweden? To have a 'day in court' there has to be sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #219
omg, sabrina, really? lol. it has clearly been explained as you ignored. run... rapist run. seabeyond Dec 2013 #224
Omg, Seabeyond!! He is not in detention, has been granted ASYLUM, a very different matter and sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #226
no shit he is not in detention, hence "detention". and ya, a criminal has to hide from the law. seabeyond Dec 2013 #227
Are you claiming that he has been charged and convicted of a crime? Please inform the rest of the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #229
Yeah .......... don't hold your breath for that. nt polly7 Dec 2013 #244
Lol, I know, I am not holding my breath. But the absolute certainty of the 'charges' without a sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #247
It's not fascinating to me any more .... it's lazy and simplistic and stupid. polly7 Dec 2013 #249
I actually agree with you and the ONLY reason I even bother with them when most people sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #251
Good questions! polly7 Dec 2013 #246
Especially since a few months prior to the allegations Wikileaks obtained a CIA document sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #250
Thanks for all of this Sabrina. polly7 Dec 2013 #254
She's gotten answers..she just refuses to believe them. I am assuming you read the EAW.... msanthrope Dec 2013 #269
Just list the charges filed against Assange in the Swedish Court as claimed here in this thread. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #282
Sabrina, I no longer answer you questions because of the behavior exhibited msanthrope Dec 2013 #283
Does Sweden have a "statute of limitations" he's trying to wait out?? Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #83
That's a good question treestar Dec 2013 #199
He's never been charged with anything in Sweden so there's nothing to 'wait out'. Why have they sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #220
could it be you've willfully ignored repeated attempts to explain that the Swedish judicial system dionysus Dec 2013 #231
Could it be that you are ignoring the FACT that the Swedish Prosecutor has REFUSED to take sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #234
I wonder if the embassy staff throws him a party on these anniversaries? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #86
Interesting question, is Assange a good houseguest? Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #87
Someone's leaving Ecuador's embassy... but it's not Julian Assange (Independent | 9 Jun 13) struggle4progress Dec 2013 #120
I suspect when he leaves the embassy he'll be awarded a year free in Her Majesty's Bed and Breakfast struggle4progress Dec 2013 #88
Here is a court document that summarizes the case BainsBane Dec 2013 #98
I wonder how long this will go for. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #102
Assange is not in detention in the UK. He is voluntarily living in an embassy. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2013 #104
If he steps outside is he free to go or will he be detained?..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #110
Most people will not regard a person, who is in hiding after jumping bail, as being in detention struggle4progress Dec 2013 #119
I think the difference is that Einhorn was free to travel in Europe. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #142
The Unicorn was not free to travel in Europe under his own name. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #201
Now you're getting desperate. Assange has been granted asylum. And who did Assange murder sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #280
I expect almost no one thinks time spent as a fugitive, evading the law, counts as time in detention struggle4progress Dec 2013 #295
So you're not familiar with the history of Asylum seekers? You really think a murderer = political sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #299
I don't regard time spent as a fugitive, evading the lawful judgment of courts, as time in detention struggle4progress Dec 2013 #302
Self-detention? moondust Dec 2013 #107
As odd as it is I think "exile" or "Asylum" is the correct term. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #109
A completely misleading headline, courtesy of Putin's Russia Today. MADem Dec 2013 #112
It 'sounds' better though, and makes him seem more the 'victim' which is why they use that word n/t Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2013 #115
Actually I looked for an alternate source mentioning the milestone and couldn't find one. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #176
The fact that you didn't find one is telling. MADem Dec 2013 #200
That should tell you something... (nt) Recursion Dec 2013 #391
This can't be good for image of freedom fighters? SpcMnky Dec 2013 #130
LOL nt. dionysus Dec 2013 #232
you do know that Assange has a talk show on Russian tv TorchTheWitch Dec 2013 #138
Wow this thread is working my ignore list bobduca Dec 2013 #216
Yep. I have no one on ignore so I'm asking those who apparently are on most people's ignore lists sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #222
There are no charges against Assange yet many here already say he's guilty. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #252
No. We are saying that he is a fugitive desperately trying to escape arrest hack89 Dec 2013 #273
Uh huh. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #284
Are you denying he is desperately trying to avoid arrest? nt hack89 Dec 2013 #287
Swedish law is not the same as US law. jeff47 Dec 2013 #286
I would just like to say for the record, snot Dec 2013 #256
Oh, wow... SidDithers Dec 2013 #277
Why Sweden? jeff47 Dec 2013 #289
I don't know who to believe in this case... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #261
Well, it gets a lot easier when you look at what surrounds someone's position. jeff47 Dec 2013 #288
Also, don't forget the enormous scope of the conspiracy. randome Dec 2013 #290
American citizen doesn't matter jeff47 Dec 2013 #291
It's crystal clear treestar Dec 2013 #292
The worst thing that could happen to Assange is he goes to Sweden and the charges are dropped. randome Dec 2013 #296
He'll be seeing American spies under every rock treestar Dec 2013 #318
This thread is all kinds of awesome... SidDithers Dec 2013 #276
It really is. zappaman Dec 2013 #311
Seldom have I seen such a wreck. And the fact that most of it was done by a single poster Number23 Dec 2013 #321
Yeah, Assange threads are always entertaining trainwrecks. cemaphonic Dec 2013 #344
It is legend treestar Dec 2013 #382
Wow Bobbie Jo Dec 2013 #394
The only reason no charges have been pressed is because he is avoiding the country gollygee Dec 2013 #279
Sweden is a country where, at US request, an innocent man was snot Dec 2013 #340
It's obvious gollygee Dec 2013 #386
Assange is wanted for questioning. snot Dec 2013 #401
He could also be acquitted only to be extradited to the US to share a cell with Manning Major Nikon Dec 2013 #341
If Sweden did question then charge him there... joshcryer Dec 2013 #357
What exactly does Sweden have to lose? Major Nikon Dec 2013 #363
Once he's charged Ecuador can demand jurisdiction. joshcryer Dec 2013 #366
Sweden refused to question Assange remotely even before he went to the embassy Major Nikon Dec 2013 #368
It was absolutely an uncommon procedure. joshcryer Dec 2013 #369
No country has to "agree" to any such status Major Nikon Dec 2013 #371
The UK doesn't have to accept accredition. joshcryer Dec 2013 #372
It's not up to the UK to accept or deny Major Nikon Dec 2013 #373
Yes it is, read this pro-Assange blog: joshcryer Dec 2013 #374
Article 9 Major Nikon Dec 2013 #376
Article 81 says they must be Ecuadorian by birth. joshcryer Dec 2013 #377
I saw that on another web site Major Nikon Dec 2013 #378
No. It would be unprecedented. joshcryer Dec 2013 #380
Plus Julian should not get to dictate terms that way treestar Dec 2013 #383
Naturally. joshcryer Dec 2013 #384
No charges, eh? Why doesn't he waltz out of there? joshcryer Dec 2013 #356
Don't try bringing logic into this. :) Nine Dec 2013 #361
It's very simple: our Alpha-Centarian overlords have taking a special liking to Ecuador and struggle4progress Dec 2013 #365
Heh, thanks, that clears it up. joshcryer Dec 2013 #367
Ha. Well said. Recursion Dec 2013 #393
Here's what I don't understand. What do you think is the significance of the lack of charges? Nine Dec 2013 #370
They live in fantasy land where warrants without charges = innocence. joshcryer Dec 2013 #375
Because Karl Rove! Pinochet!!...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #387
^^^ This. Nine has asked the be-all end-all question here. Recursion Dec 2013 #392
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