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Bernardo de La Paz

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16. Actually, Tea Party types are big-government corporatists but don't know it.

Wed Dec 18, 2013, 11:13 AM

Dec 2013

They famously "don't do nuance" because they do so little study and introspection that they don't have a clue.

Tea Party types are manipulated by big faux-Libertarians like the Koch brothers who are really wanting to have a much greater alignment of government and big corporations: corporate welfare, subsidies, low taxation of profits, and massive spending on defense, police, and prisons: essentially the Neo-Con con. The short form label for that is fascism (a case where labelling is more accurate and useful than other cases).

The Big Government aspect is that Tea Party types actually want lots and lots of government interference into personal lives via trans-vaginal probes, getting between doctors and patients, prevention of birth control while subsidizing "erectile disfunction" drugs, prohibitions against victimless crimes, state sponsored narrowly defined christianity, interference in teaching, state mandated teaching of religious doctrine at the expense of science education, over-testing in the name of standards at the expense of critical thinking, and much more.

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For the fools who take libertarianism seriously ... [View all] Scuba Dec 2013 OP

Elizabeth Warren (and later POTUS) got excoriated for pointing out the obvious. MADem Dec 2013 #1

Well, that's ignorant GladRagDahl Dec 2013 #2

Well, what we call libertarianism the rest of the world calls anarcho-capitalism. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #4

no seriously? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #6

It's one school, and certainly not the one I subscribe to. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #7

OHHHH certainly not... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #8

Yes, one school. I'm a collectivist anarchist idealistically. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #10

of of course....nothing in common at all...right... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #35

Plenty of people who identify with leftist anarchism support Democrats. Me included. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #36

I wouldn't say lots....Almost all Democratic support is because VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #37

What he says seems like a pretty good description of Libertarianism to me el_bryanto Dec 2013 #5

Just Ayn Rand disciples in white sheets. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2013 #32

Wrong abelenkpe Dec 2013 #26

'Selfishness is a virtue' according to A Rand nt duhneece Dec 2013 #31

Reminds me: ProSense Dec 2013 #3

rather ignorant PatrynXX Dec 2013 #9

Capital L Libertarianism is anarchism. Specifically anarcho-capitalism. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #11

ha PatrynXX Dec 2013 #17

Of course I know what it stands for. I identify with collectivist anarchism after all. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #20

This was definitely not directed at the Tea Party. Scuba Dec 2013 #13

Actually, Tea Party types are big-government corporatists but don't know it. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #16

the general tea party members PatrynXX Dec 2013 #22

Sarah Palin is using the Teabillies to make herself rich. I have no pity for her. Scuba Dec 2013 #30

Tea Partiers aren't anarchists or Libertarians. They want the state to do their bidding: Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #33

Like my former mechanic who put a big sign on his garage mountain grammy Dec 2013 #12

For fools (your wording) that take caricatured labels as the real thing ... Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #14

Excellent post, Prof... First Speaker Dec 2013 #23

It's where team politics mixes with ignorance (willful or otherwise). NuclearDem Dec 2013 #24

Civil libertarians are not what progressives attack abelenkpe Dec 2013 #27

Points to the Snowden threads nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #29

Yeah? abelenkpe Dec 2013 #38

All political ideologies are unworkable if implemented. FarCenter Dec 2013 #15

Libertarianism has been picked out of the trashbin of ideologies HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #18

Eggzaklee! Scuba Dec 2013 #21

Ron Paul 2012 ctsnowman Dec 2013 #19

those who subscribe to libertarianism are a collection FatBuddy Dec 2013 #25

You do realize that there are Libertarian Democrats. ... spin Dec 2013 #28

There are some good elements to the Libertarian Platform that I support, bvar22 Dec 2013 #34