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sibelian

(7,804 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:28 PM Dec 2013

My sexual orientation is being used as a political fucking football. 43 years of this crap. [View all]

Last edited Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:55 PM - Edit history (2)

This bullshit has been going on in my life now continuously since I was born. I am 43.

When I was 11 my parents refused to let me carry on seeing my friend after we'd moved town as they were convinced he was going to turn me gay.

When I was 13, my mother instructed me not to come back to her house gay after I'd been away to University as she didn't want AIDS in the family.

When I was in secondary school I was beaten up every lunchtime, pretty much every single day, for loads of reasons of which being supposed to be gay was only one by the same group of four fucking jocks who decided they'd taken a fancy to me.

When I finally got a job, the entire nation was on the brink of repealing Section 28, which forbade positive depictions of homosexuality in the classroom. Brian Soutar, who owned a stagecoach company, pulled together a "referendum" out of his own funds and achieved an ~80% NO REPEAL vote in his little poll.

During that little debacle, the staffroom at my place of work was alive with talk of how those awful homosexuals should learn to LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE. These were people who knew I was gay and had worked with me for over 5 years. They just came right out with it in front of me as if I wasn't even there. These were people I had actually respected.

There was a brief period of about a year when the political climate looked as if it was about to change and then South Park re-popularised the word "gay" as an insult rather than a primarily descriptive term, by pretending it was really supposed to mean something else and was hence "ironic".

Youtube has "gay" written all over it by sniggering heterosexual teenagers.

During the 90s and early 2000s a whole pile of "metrosexuals" appeared who apparently I was to regard as a kind of tacit approval of my sexual orientation by virtue of their willingness to "take a walk on the wild side".

Also during the 90s and 2000s, the phenomenon known to speakers of languages like Greek and French, in which nouns have genders, acquired a peculiar cousin in the form of objects, abstract concepts and forms of behaviour acquiring sexual orientations. "Is this shirt gay? Is this table gay? Are wind chimes gay? Is checking out porn with your buddy gay? Are sandals gay? Is owning an aquarium gay? Is having facial hair of THIS length or THIS length gay?"

In recent times it has apparently been my fault that heterosexuals can't keep their marriages together, and their marriages don't really mean anything because promises made in front of God only count if there's something weird and unwholesome about gay people, if there ISN'T, well God will be JUST fine if you do whatever the hell you like after swearing an oath in his house.

There are executions of gay people all the time in Middle East... Vladimir Putin can't think of anything to do to deflect attention away from his thick-as-pigshitness and total incapacity to do anything of any meaning with his country except squash the demographic least able to effectively fight back... Is anyone surprised that it's Teh Gays?

And now we have a TV show with some beardy guy being honest and humble and just "expressing his opinions".

There's a reason for all this.

There are never really going to be enough gay people in the world to make our votes count enough for any of the people who can change anything. We are too small in number. They don't really need to take us into account for any more reason than a kind of political vanity project. I don't think the Right's homophobia is as clearly expressed near the top of its rickety pyramid anywhere near as strongly as it is in the foundations.

Anyway, they can use discussions about me and all the other gay people out there as statements of their wider intent. As ciphers.

It's okay to pretend openly that gays are secret pederasts among certain demographics, so you can use that to legitimise wider, more subtle forms of bigotry. After all, if the behaviour of one entire demographic can be reduced to a few simple lies, why not other demographics too? It's very useful to have one demographic that you can just squirt your adjectives and your "HOW does this make ME feel about ME" theories all over with impunity. It supports the subtler forms. One great big tentpole of "GASP! LOOK AT THE FURRRRREAKITY FREAKS!!!"

I'm afraid I've sort of resigned myself to the idea that this is probably how it will always be.

I blame Putin for this, as he pulled his "EEEEEK TEH GAYS" trick out of the hat for no identifiable reason at all.

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. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #1
... sibelian Dec 2013 #28
The human experience is sometimes heartbreaking. Trillo Dec 2013 #2
Well... sibelian Dec 2013 #29
Your post is so well written and makes so much sense and I am sorry some words and deeds live on... Tikki Dec 2013 #3
Maybe one day it will be done. sibelian Dec 2013 #36
I am sorry for the unrelenting hate dumped on you. HappyMe Dec 2013 #4
Thank you, Happy. sibelian Dec 2013 #30
My dear Sibelian.... IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #5
Thank you Ida. sibelian Dec 2013 #37
Gays were and still ARE a persecuted minority. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #6
Hm? sibelian Dec 2013 #38
I think we all know what he means... YoungDemCA Dec 2013 #81
Um... sibelian Dec 2013 #85
So are Blacks even with a Black president. So are Hispanics, Muslims and so many others. vaberella Dec 2013 #107
mentioning souttar, are you from strathclyde or an east coaster. loli phabay Dec 2013 #7
I'm East Coast. sibelian Dec 2013 #26
yup parts of the glasgow area are mental, hence the city motto. no mean city, kinda ironic loli phabay Dec 2013 #27
Well, I'm from Glasgow originally and it's got better... sibelian Dec 2013 #31
what scheme you from loli phabay Dec 2013 #51
Hah! sibelian Dec 2013 #54
lol, bearsden, almost as bad as milngavie loli phabay Dec 2013 #57
Hnk! Could have been Kelvnside. sibelian Dec 2013 #62
omg, you millionaire you. lol. bet you even have someone to pre chew your highland toffee lol loli phabay Dec 2013 #64
Dude, I can't say where I live in Edinburgh online, but let' just say you'd probably think sibelian Dec 2013 #66
so most important question, tim or bear, or are you a jags man loli phabay Dec 2013 #68
... sibelian Dec 2013 #78
lol, well bearsden and morning side probuably means you prefer the weird shaped balls loli phabay Dec 2013 #86
This is an outstanding post. woo me with science Dec 2013 #8
Thank you. sibelian Dec 2013 #32
K&R Kurovski Dec 2013 #9
I certainly hope so... sibelian Dec 2013 #39
New Mexico just affirmed gay marriage as a right. WilliamPitt Dec 2013 #10
Please do, Will, and thank you. sibelian Dec 2013 #19
(((hug))) WilliamPitt Dec 2013 #40
"resigned myself to the idea that this is probably how it will always be" progressoid Dec 2013 #11
I'm very displeased with Vladimir. sibelian Dec 2013 #18
siblelian, a change is gonna come. silvershadow Dec 2013 #12
Exactly what I was thinking. nt okaawhatever Dec 2013 #49
You are not alone BooBrown Dec 2013 #13
I'm so sorry to hear that, Boo. sibelian Dec 2013 #41
Putin's reason for bringing out homophobia is for an easily identifiable reason. grantcart Dec 2013 #14
"getting an assist in his human rights Potemkin Village charade by Glenn Greenwald." What Hissyspit Dec 2013 #23
Do you understand what a Potemkin Village is? grantcart Dec 2013 #43
Yeah. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #46
I wish more people were gay passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #15
Thank you... and, yes. You get REALLY fed up of it. sibelian Dec 2013 #42
I just turned 55, and though things still suck, they are much better. we can do it Dec 2013 #16
Yes, they are. sibelian Dec 2013 #53
Nice piece libodem Dec 2013 #17
Thank YOU libodem. sibelian Dec 2013 #55
A-FUCKING-MEN! Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #20
That one makes my blood boil. sibelian Dec 2013 #24
Sadly, I have met a few. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #58
The ones that piss the fuck off out of me are the people who treat as a kind of REBELLION. sibelian Dec 2013 #65
"I've sort of resigned myself to the idea that this is probably how it will always be." DemocraticWing Dec 2013 #21
I have no idea where it comes from. sibelian Dec 2013 #25
I do think there is hope... countryjake Dec 2013 #22
Yes, that does make a difference. sibelian Dec 2013 #92
as the mercuryblues Dec 2013 #33
It's hideous. sibelian Dec 2013 #59
yeah. mercuryblues Dec 2013 #69
Some of the Christian attitudes towards womanhood are just inexplicably fucked up. sibelian Dec 2013 #75
just AS mercuryblues Dec 2013 #80
I agree. sibelian Dec 2013 #83
Excellent post Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #34
Thanks, PT. sibelian Dec 2013 #63
Well written post Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #35
Thank you Katashi. sibelian Dec 2013 #67
You are 100 percent on the money with your post. lisby Dec 2013 #44
And to you, lisby... sibelian Dec 2013 #84
I believe that we will someday elect an openly gay or lesbian President. Jim Lane Dec 2013 #45
The pope hates us LGBTers, yet many here just love the guy. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #47
Sickening, isn't it? bigwillq Dec 2013 #73
Thank you so much for posting this, amazingly well written. BlueEye Dec 2013 #48
We would have NOTHING were it not for the understanding of straight people. sibelian Dec 2013 #87
There is a lot of good that has happened in the last 43 years Fearless Dec 2013 #50
Yes, that's true. sibelian Dec 2013 #88
Everyone has the right to speak their minds on issues that matter to them. Fearless Dec 2013 #94
it will get better awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #52
:) sibelian Dec 2013 #89
A most excellent rant. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #56
Hey J sibelian Dec 2013 #90
This open pretension amounts to a massive social lie. burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #60
Apparently the Russians have always had a bigoted streak in this regard, and Pootie is exploiting it MADem Dec 2013 #61
Hugs. I wish everyone would just mind their own fucking business, instead of obsessing idwiyo Dec 2013 #70
I think there are reasons why there's no zero tolerance policy sibelian Dec 2013 #72
GMTA. Hugs. idwiyo Dec 2013 #76
I'm sick of it too. Puglover Dec 2013 #71
+1000... sibelian Dec 2013 #91
Not excusing this, but I really do want you to know that Fawke Em Dec 2013 #74
good point, words evolve over time, for some certain words may be hurtful but for others its loli phabay Dec 2013 #77
How about both of you groups leave us alone seattledo Dec 2013 #79
I'm not responsible for the actions of your friends. sibelian Dec 2013 #82
Exactly! those gay people should sit down and shut up! Agony Dec 2013 #95
I said both groups. seattledo Dec 2013 #97
"I don't define myself by my sexuality" sibelian Dec 2013 #101
You "Normal" people... Hmmm... uriel1972 Dec 2013 #99
OK, well you can lay the blame squarely at the feet of fundamentalist religion TrogL Dec 2013 #93
the reasons Putin wages war on gays is vlyons Dec 2013 #96
I know how you feel about being abused by your peers during schooling... uriel1972 Dec 2013 #98
Yes. Russia is doing very badly and there are few obvious solutions. sibelian Dec 2013 #103
sibelian imthevicar Dec 2013 #100
I don't care about happiness any more. sibelian Dec 2013 #102
No Need to thank me, imthevicar Dec 2013 #106
I'm sorry for all you've been through. Nine Dec 2013 #104
Well, I livein the UK where things are possibly a far bit better than the US. sibelian Dec 2013 #105
My heart bleeds for what you went through. But Gays are not the only target. vaberella Dec 2013 #108
Targets of bigotry often assume that they are somehow immune from being bigots. sibelian Dec 2013 #109
I couldn't agree more. vaberella Dec 2013 #110
Anything they can use as a political football... davidthegnome Dec 2013 #111
"Remember when he changed his mind?" sibelian Dec 2013 #113
Bumping for Utah. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #112
This lesbian agrees with you. Roarybeans Dec 2013 #114
Bumping for utah...again Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #115
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