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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: Federal judge rules NSA data gathering on all US telephone calls is unconstitutional [View all]ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)The Courts have always ruled that once you give something to someone else with the expectation that they are going to use it in some manner (including envelope addresses, telephone numbers, email address, etc.), it is no longer your "persons, houses, papers, and effects" that has fourth amendment protection.
The idea that google's servers, facebook's servers, various store-and-forward email servers, AT&T's phone system, the US Post Office, etc, are somehow "your" effect that you have an expectation to privacy over, rather than owned by third parties and stored on their hard-drives, is ludicrous. The couldn't do what you ask them to do if they did not look at the information that you gave them.
Now clearly, statues have been written to hold that many things spoken in confidence in private settings are to be protected. And the courts have backed that up. But this doesn't apply to the NSA, since they are only concerned with signal intelligence and routing data.
So don't be like the GOP trolls on D.U. screaming about their "Constitutional right" being violated because their troll post is deleted on Skinner's private server. The Constitution doesn't work that way.
That's where I'm coming from.
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