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Aristus

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14. This paradigm proved successful when in was introduced in Washington State

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:35 PM

Dec 2013

back in 2007 or so.

Previously, the plan was to get them clean and sober, or stable on medication, and then get them into housing.

The relapse rate was around 70%.

So they reversed it: housing first, and then work on getting them sober or mentally and emotionally stable.

By reversing the plan, they reversed the failure rate; Success ~70%!

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What a great idea! Kaleva Dec 2013 #1

We should give the program a nice catchy name Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #89

giving homeless people homes is just fucking crazy. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #2

U forgot the sarcasm smiley.. By definition if someone has a home then they are not homeless. geckosfeet Dec 2013 #5

DU: where sarcasm crawled up its own bunghole and died. Warren Stupidity Dec 2013 #6

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It started with Shakespeare and it's gotten worse ever since. Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #90

Do we still have Duzys? Because that's definitely one of them! Squinch Dec 2013 #81

But... But.. Bootstraps.. and Work Ethic... and Free rides... and.. SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #3

What is Phil Robertsons take on the homeless? tina tron Dec 2013 #15

Remember it is the Republicans yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #41

His son claims they took in many homeless when he was a boy marshall Dec 2013 #44

you forgot tazkcmo Dec 2013 #28

more likely to get a job if they have an address and a phone demigoddess Dec 2013 #54

...and Freedum....and... lastlib Dec 2013 #61

K&R demmiblue Dec 2013 #4

Republican State Gives Free Houses to Moochers, Cuts Homelessness by 74 Percent ProSense Dec 2013 #7

They should do this in Detroit n/t passiveporcupine Dec 2013 #36

I was just thinking that. We have 20,000 in that city alone. IdaBriggs Dec 2013 #59

The same should apply to food and healthcare... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #8

That is my belief etherealtruth Dec 2013 #9

+100000 nt riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #16

Actually, ProSense Dec 2013 #17

Sorry Pro, but until EVERYONE has health care then it's a failed system... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #30

Yes but there are degrees of failure and success CreekDog Dec 2013 #35

I do, because mandates are an evil I will never support. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #38

So you want everyone added to Medicaid thrown off CreekDog Dec 2013 #46

I want health CARE for all, such as with a NHS type system. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #60

Yes but you want ACA repealed and... CreekDog Dec 2013 #63

The ACA cannot be repealed without Congress... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #80

Thank you for explaining that and telling your story CreekDog Dec 2013 #94

I think we need to move away from the "buying in" mindset... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #95

I don't disagree, but the ACA was a big improvement in many ways groundloop Dec 2013 #65

And ProSense Dec 2013 #68

The Medicaid expansion would not apply to the homeless. former9thward Dec 2013 #64

Actually, ProSense Dec 2013 #67

I do know what I am talking about. former9thward Dec 2013 #69

No, you don't ProSense Dec 2013 #73

I post from official sources. former9thward Dec 2013 #74

Do you have "official sources" ProSense Dec 2013 #78

Absolutely shanti Dec 2013 #34

Yes. Completely agree. (nt) gtar100 Dec 2013 #49

Add education and justice and it just might hang together. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #83

Yes, and I am embarassed I failed to list them. nt Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #84

I'm not sure how far it will go, but it won't come to WI with this legislature. HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #11

Scotty is an evil flunky of the Koch Brothers David and Charles warrant46 Dec 2013 #23

The only way this will sink in with economic conservatives is with the value of the dollar Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #12

If you have not been homeless Diego_Native 2012 Dec 2013 #13

Access to basic human needs is a fundamental right tina tron Dec 2013 #19

It would be illegal to treat a dog the way we treat the homeless DBoon Dec 2013 #45

+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2013 #50

FDR agreed. bvar22 Dec 2013 #82

I can so relate to everything you said, bvar22. Raksha Dec 2013 #85

Thank You for the kind words. bvar22 Dec 2013 #91

+1000 Please consider reposting as an OP LongTomH Dec 2013 #86

And without all of those things your chance of getting a job is nil. zeemike Dec 2013 #24

I was (somewhat) homeless for a month.... groundloop Dec 2013 #27

I am still fighting with that delima Left Coast2020 Dec 2013 #52

^^^^^^This^^^^^^ woo me with science Dec 2013 #32

+1 .. Welcome to DU annabanana Dec 2013 #88

This paradigm proved successful when in was introduced in Washington State Aristus Dec 2013 #14

+ 1 russspeakeasy Dec 2013 #39

I remember that.. conservative radio called the housing wino hotels, or something. It is logical and freshwest Dec 2013 #47

It actually started in 15 years before that in NYC by a non-profit Major Nikon Dec 2013 #71

But . . . giving people stuff just makes them dependent! tclambert Dec 2013 #18

this sounds like socialism, communism, fascism, and atheism NewJeffCT Dec 2013 #20

Leave it to them Mormons to break it down to a business proposition legcramp Dec 2013 #21

If only everyone would do this yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #42

If Obama was all over this and trying to promote it, we know what the result would be. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #43

...but we already have that, bvar22 Dec 2013 #92

"Do you think the Right Wing could get any MORE crazy?" Yes and Fuck Yes. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #93

? Democrats did this here in 2007. Utah is following our lead: freshwest Dec 2013 #48

I have always found Utah to be a strange state. It has some of the most developed bluestate10 Dec 2013 #22

Simple, practical economics Turbineguy Dec 2013 #25

I hope it manages to get to NM Warpy Dec 2013 #26

Well, that's just creating another class of "poor" people . . . ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #29

These apartments will be privately owned, rents collected for profit, not some Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #62

Used to work in the administration of a city homeless shelter. Utah has the right approach. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #31

Huge K&R woo me with science Dec 2013 #33

Works for me. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #37

K & R for common sense. mountain grammy Dec 2013 #40

That is great news and so unexpected these days. nt Live and Learn Dec 2013 #51

K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #53

It has been known for some time quaker bill Dec 2013 #55

It always seemed to me that, in "Red States", they jump to the opportunity King_Klonopin Dec 2013 #56

See? DeSwiss Dec 2013 #57

But these homeless people don't "deserve" something they didn't work for. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #58

Proving that all the food and shelters nilesobek Dec 2013 #66

I hope Governor Brown is reading this. Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #70

That's for damn sure. I live in San Bernardino, where it's really bad. Raksha Dec 2013 #87

Food, Shelter and Clothing should be provided to anyone who can't get that for themselves. harun Dec 2013 #72

UTAH???? a holiday miracle, indeed. I have been advocating for the same thing in my oh-so-red niyad Dec 2013 #75

when I first saw the title, I assumed that when I read it, it would say that utah was simply sending niyad Dec 2013 #76

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k&r for good government. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #79

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