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In reply to the discussion: Utah Is on Track to End Homelessness by 2015 With This One Simple Idea [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)68. And
Sorry Pro, but until EVERYONE has health care then it's a failed system...
The ACA helps some, but there will still be millions who's only health care is prayer and hope. Millions just hoping the pain in their chest isn't a heart attack, millions hoping the lump in their breast isn't cancer, millions practicing do-it-yourself internet medicine because that's all they can do, and who knows maybe snorting Windex really does cure Pneumonia.
Health CARE
Not insurance. Care. And it's freaking ludicrous that here, in the wealthiest nation in history, we have people dying because they cannot afford to see a doctor.
The ACA helps some, but there will still be millions who's only health care is prayer and hope. Millions just hoping the pain in their chest isn't a heart attack, millions hoping the lump in their breast isn't cancer, millions practicing do-it-yourself internet medicine because that's all they can do, and who knows maybe snorting Windex really does cure Pneumonia.
Health CARE
Not insurance. Care. And it's freaking ludicrous that here, in the wealthiest nation in history, we have people dying because they cannot afford to see a doctor.
...because of Obamacare, there will tens of millions who no longer fall into that category.
The Week in Review
The government shutdown dragged into a second week. A growing majority of Democrats and about 20 Republicans in the House favor a Senate-passed resolution to reopen the government, but Speaker John Boehner refused to bring the resolution up for a vote. When House Republicans first forced a shutdown on Oct. 1, they were demanding the defunding of Obamacare as part of any deal. That would be a death sentence for thousands of Americans without health insurance, Sen. Bernie Sanders told a Senate hearing on Thursday. As the week wore on, Republicans shifted their rationale for closing the government and defaulting on the countrys debts. Now they demand deep cuts in Social Security and other programs. The whole spectacle drove public approval of Congress, especially Republicans and the Tea Party, to new lows. As Sanders sized up the situation in a Friday floor speech, he began by citing a piece in The Onion. Psychiatrists Deeply Concerned for 5% of Americans Who Approve of Congress, the headline said.
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Obamacare How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed? Sanders asked at a hearing he chaired Thursday on what would happen if Obamacare is repealed. The hearing came on the 10th day of a government shutdown forced by House Republicans insisting that any deal to reopen the government defund the health care law. Watch excerpts from the hearing, Read Greg Kaufmanns piece in The Nation
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http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/the-week-in-review-101113
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Obamacare How many people will die if the Affordable Care Act is repealed? Sanders asked at a hearing he chaired Thursday on what would happen if Obamacare is repealed. The hearing came on the 10th day of a government shutdown forced by House Republicans insisting that any deal to reopen the government defund the health care law. Watch excerpts from the hearing, Read Greg Kaufmanns piece in The Nation
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http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/the-week-in-review-101113
This Week in Poverty: What Defunding Obamacare Really Means
Greg Kaufmann
When the fate of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was in question, independent Senator Bernie Sanders was no easy yea vote.
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In the end, Sanders helped to pass the ACAlegislation that Republicans are now so desperate to repeal that they have shut down the government and put the full faith and credit of the US in jeopardy...He noted that we are (still) the only country in the industrialized world that doesnt guarantee healthcare to people as a right. As a result, there are 48 million Americans without health insurance. Under the ACA, 20 million currently uninsured people will finally receive coverage (more if GOP governors get out of the way) and thousands of lives will be saved every year...Sanders pointed to a Harvard study that estimates 45,000 people are dying each year from illnesses that arise due to a lack of health insurance....For all of those folks saying we have to repeal the Affordable Care Act, what they are doing is passing a death sentence on many of our fellow Americans.
Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a nonprofit organization that advocates for affordable healthcare for all Americans... used a conservative methodologydesigned by the nonpartisan Institute of Medicineto determine how many people between the ages of 25 and 64 died in 2010 due to a lack of health insurance.
We found that approximately 26,100 people between the ages of 25 and 64 died prematurely due to a lack of health coverage that year, said Pollack...this breaks down to 2,175 people dying every month, 502 every week, and seventy-two every day...between 2005 and 2010, it added up to 134,000 preventable deaths...Thats a number that resonates with Independent Senator Angus King of Maine, who shared his personal experience with health being determined by coverage.
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These deaths occur invisibly, he said. They occur one at a time, all over the place, and it doesnt say in the obituary died because of no healthcare. If it happened all in one town, at one time, we would be moving heaven and earth to solve this problem, if we lost anywhere from 26,000 to 45,000 (people) a year. If we lost the town of Augusta in one year, and the next year it was someplace in Colorado, or Vermont, this society would have dealt with this many, many years ago.
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http://www.thenation.com/blog/176599/week-poverty-what-defunding-obamacare-really-means
Greg Kaufmann
When the fate of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was in question, independent Senator Bernie Sanders was no easy yea vote.
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In the end, Sanders helped to pass the ACAlegislation that Republicans are now so desperate to repeal that they have shut down the government and put the full faith and credit of the US in jeopardy...He noted that we are (still) the only country in the industrialized world that doesnt guarantee healthcare to people as a right. As a result, there are 48 million Americans without health insurance. Under the ACA, 20 million currently uninsured people will finally receive coverage (more if GOP governors get out of the way) and thousands of lives will be saved every year...Sanders pointed to a Harvard study that estimates 45,000 people are dying each year from illnesses that arise due to a lack of health insurance....For all of those folks saying we have to repeal the Affordable Care Act, what they are doing is passing a death sentence on many of our fellow Americans.
Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a nonprofit organization that advocates for affordable healthcare for all Americans... used a conservative methodologydesigned by the nonpartisan Institute of Medicineto determine how many people between the ages of 25 and 64 died in 2010 due to a lack of health insurance.
We found that approximately 26,100 people between the ages of 25 and 64 died prematurely due to a lack of health coverage that year, said Pollack...this breaks down to 2,175 people dying every month, 502 every week, and seventy-two every day...between 2005 and 2010, it added up to 134,000 preventable deaths...Thats a number that resonates with Independent Senator Angus King of Maine, who shared his personal experience with health being determined by coverage.
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These deaths occur invisibly, he said. They occur one at a time, all over the place, and it doesnt say in the obituary died because of no healthcare. If it happened all in one town, at one time, we would be moving heaven and earth to solve this problem, if we lost anywhere from 26,000 to 45,000 (people) a year. If we lost the town of Augusta in one year, and the next year it was someplace in Colorado, or Vermont, this society would have dealt with this many, many years ago.
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http://www.thenation.com/blog/176599/week-poverty-what-defunding-obamacare-really-means
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U forgot the sarcasm smiley.. By definition if someone has a home then they are not homeless.
geckosfeet
Dec 2013
#5
Republican State Gives Free Houses to Moochers, Cuts Homelessness by 74 Percent
ProSense
Dec 2013
#7
I'm not sure how far it will go, but it won't come to WI with this legislature.
HereSince1628
Dec 2013
#11
The only way this will sink in with economic conservatives is with the value of the dollar
Harmony Blue
Dec 2013
#12
I remember that.. conservative radio called the housing wino hotels, or something. It is logical and
freshwest
Dec 2013
#47
If Obama was all over this and trying to promote it, we know what the result would be.
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#43
"Do you think the Right Wing could get any MORE crazy?" Yes and Fuck Yes.
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#93
I have always found Utah to be a strange state. It has some of the most developed
bluestate10
Dec 2013
#22
These apartments will be privately owned, rents collected for profit, not some
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#62
Used to work in the administration of a city homeless shelter. Utah has the right approach.
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#31
It always seemed to me that, in "Red States", they jump to the opportunity
King_Klonopin
Dec 2013
#56
Food, Shelter and Clothing should be provided to anyone who can't get that for themselves.
harun
Dec 2013
#72
UTAH???? a holiday miracle, indeed. I have been advocating for the same thing in my oh-so-red
niyad
Dec 2013
#75