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pnwmom

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68. According to the NIH, if the tumor has spread, chemo is unlikely to cure.

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:56 AM

Dec 2013

You may be confusing this with other benign tumors.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000393.htm

Outlook (Prognosis)
You may be cured if the tumors are surgically removed before they have spread to other organs. If tumors are cancerous, chemotherapy may be used, but it usually cannot cure patients.

Life-threatening problems (such as very low blood sugar) can occur due to excess hormone production, or if the cancer spreads throughout the body.

http://healthland.time.com/2011/10/05/the-pancreatic-cancer-that-killed-steve-jobs/

Whether these treatments helped to extend Jobs’ life or improve the quality of his last days isn’t clear. But cancer experts expressed surprise that Jobs survived as long as he did, continuing to fight his disease.

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Sarah Hershberger comes home to die [View all] SidDithers Dec 2013 OP

But...Big Pharma... MineralMan Dec 2013 #1

Science allows us to hear fragments of the language of God derby378 Dec 2013 #2

+1 freshwest Dec 2013 #33

It is so coarse of you to judge her parents. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #3

No. Fuck the parents... SidDithers Dec 2013 #5

It is not my decision or yours to make. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #9

Parents do not have a right to kill their children. kcr Dec 2013 #10

Withdrawing treatment is not killing your child. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #13

Yes it is. kcr Dec 2013 #14

You are entitled to your opinion. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #16

As opposed to yours? kcr Dec 2013 #18

LOL, do you understand percentages? I can explain it if you want! nt Logical Dec 2013 #95

Oh good, I would so appreciate that. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #103

Your post tilte is a complete and utter falsehood intaglio Dec 2013 #107

I totally agree with your sentiments Big Blue Marble. loudsue Dec 2013 #30

You are so correct that the issue is that Sarah wanted to stop the treatment. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #42

Wow, so 11 is the age you let tem decide? WTF? nt Logical Dec 2013 #96

It would depend on the situation and the maturity of the child. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #98

Really? In pain? Agony! Let them decide? Wow, you make me depressed! nt Logical Dec 2013 #100

If you are depressed, you did it to yourself. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #102

I am with you on this one Tumbulu Dec 2013 #79

I suspect you would not say that over a broken bone or a shot... Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #109

How do you know she wasn't sick enough to be in the 15%? pnwmom Dec 2013 #4

11 is old enough to make her own informed medical decisions?... SidDithers Dec 2013 #6

Yes. And I'd say that if she needed an abortion, too. She is old enough pnwmom Dec 2013 #7

I totally agree pnwmom. Thank you for speaking up. loudsue Dec 2013 #35

Not legally, it isn't. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #66

I would listen to the doctors kcr Dec 2013 #8

At this time, there is no evidence, only speculation on the part of the author Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #11

Not speculation. It's a treatable cancer. kcr Dec 2013 #12

Read the article. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #15

You think the cancer is going to go away on its own? n/t kcr Dec 2013 #17

I have no idea and neither does the author as to how this child is doing. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #19

These diseases aren't mysterious. Their outcomes are generally well known. kcr Dec 2013 #20

Why does the author claim the child has come home to die Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #21

Why? Because her parents withdrew her treatment kcr Dec 2013 #22

Clues? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #25

No longer threatening them because it was too late. kcr Dec 2013 #28

Why did the news stories earlier this month say she was in remission Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #29

What news stories? kcr Dec 2013 #31

You have Google, don't you? N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #32

Yes, I do. And I happened to google it. kcr Dec 2013 #34

What difference does it make whether you are convinced or not? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #44

No. I believe that parents don't have the right to kill their children kcr Dec 2013 #47

Oh! So now the courts and the medical establishment are so fucking BENEVOLENT? loudsue Dec 2013 #36

What?? Are we supposed to go back to the days where we drilled holes in skulls????? kcr Dec 2013 #38

Sounds to me like the little girl is the one that convinced the parents to let her quit treatment. loudsue Dec 2013 #46

That's too bad for the little girl. It's a shame her parents abdicated their responsibility. kcr Dec 2013 #52

No matter how much you rant and rave, this situation is Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #48

It absolutely is as cut and dried. kcr Dec 2013 #55

As I said you are entitled to that opinion. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #61

Adults can make that decision. kcr Dec 2013 #63

At what age would you establish personhood? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #82

No, it doesn't. The court did indeed rule in the hospitals favor. They fled. kcr Dec 2013 #86

You avoided the question. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #88

It has everything to do with that. kcr Dec 2013 #90

So you would force a 17 year old to have a treatment he or she would not want? Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #91

Why would you suspect that? kcr Dec 2013 #92

I suspect that because you said "at least 18." Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #93

Sometimes the legal age is 21 kcr Dec 2013 #94

We are in total agreement that parents are responsible for their children's welfare. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #97

Yes, it does. kcr Dec 2013 #99

You are generalizing this situation. Big Blue Marble Dec 2013 #101

I don't know why the cops can't grab the kid and put her in treatment. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #24

It's probably too late. kcr Dec 2013 #26

See? You are totally DEVOID of compassion. loudsue Dec 2013 #54

I'm devoid of compassion? kcr Dec 2013 #56

You, too, are going to die, kcr. Me, you, her. Every single person. loudsue Dec 2013 #57

Wow. She's a child. kcr Dec 2013 #58

There IS a reason.....she chose it! She would rather die HER way than YOUR way. loudsue Dec 2013 #60

It doesn't matter if she chose it. She's a child. kcr Dec 2013 #62

WTF??... SidDithers Dec 2013 #77

I consider it, at this point, a rescue mission. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #81

Her medical records haven't been released so all this is speculation. n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #37

I guess strictly speaking then, a good chunk of what we talk about on DU is speculation. kcr Dec 2013 #40

She has cancer. The question is whether, in her case, pnwmom Dec 2013 #45

But they are. kcr Dec 2013 #59

But why criticize these parents when we don't know about her particular risks? n/t pnwmom Dec 2013 #70

Why are you pretending that these criticisms are coming out of nowhere? kcr Dec 2013 #71

Because the court oppointed guardian said so. Because her doctors said so. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #23

Science says that this barbaric treatment is right for this specific girl? loudsue Dec 2013 #39

No, her doctors, medical guardian and the court said the treatment is right, Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #50

Doctors told my father to have chemo. It's what they do, pnwmom Dec 2013 #41

And Steve Jobs would be alive today if he didn't subscribe to goofy new age BS that you tout. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #43

He would have been alive today? He had pancreatic cancer, which pnwmom Dec 2013 #49

LOL. I'm gonna let this one hang out there a while for YOUR ignorance flaps in the breeze. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #53

He had an islet cell tumor of the pancreas, which was diagnosed nine years pnwmom Dec 2013 #64

You are getting closer. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #65

According to the NIH, if the tumor has spread, chemo is unlikely to cure. pnwmom Dec 2013 #68

He had a PNET - Pancreatic Neuro Endocrine Tumor. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #78

You are assuming it hadn't spread before it was seen on the scan. pnwmom Dec 2013 #84

LOL. You just heard of this like 10 minutes ago and now you are a google expert. LOL Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #87

No, actually, my father's mother died of pancreatic cancer, so it's always pnwmom Dec 2013 #89

Again, you are conflating Adenocarcinoma with PNET. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #104

As I told you, I don't know what kind my grandmother had. pnwmom Dec 2013 #105

Yeah, I know about the bad kind. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #106

Wow. That must have been terrifying for his mother. pnwmom Dec 2013 #108

I'm thinking some details were left out there n/t kcr Dec 2013 #67

Here's a link to the NIH. pnwmom Dec 2013 #69

Yes, but if they're caught early and treated with surgery prognosis is good kcr Dec 2013 #72

It's not "good." It's better than the more common form. pnwmom Dec 2013 #73

I didn't say it was "good" kcr Dec 2013 #74

Yes you did. You said, pnwmom Dec 2013 #75

Oh, that's the good you were referring to. kcr Dec 2013 #76

You are wrong when saying good. The prognosis is excellent. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #80

Yep. It's very sad. kcr Dec 2013 #83

There were people in the PNET community that were none too thrilled with Jobs. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #85

I will say that once things are...over, the parents need to be charged with manslaughter... Humanist_Activist Dec 2013 #27

With an 85% chance of beating it with treatment I think she should get the treatment and the parents hrmjustin Dec 2013 #51

People here hate Sid and the Recs and posts prove it. joshcryer Dec 2013 #110

Criminal dumbarse parents. idwiyo Dec 2013 #111

Agreed...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #112

I know first hand how brutal chemo can be. I wished few times I was dead while going through it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #113