After 43 Years, Activists Admit Theft At FBI Office That Exposed Domestic Spying - NBCNews

[MADem]

93. Wow, your 'justification' is that you want to think I think him being jailed

would have been a-ok because he faced the music? How very lame! That's all you've got?

He wasn't convicted not because the government was incompetent, but because the government had deliberately lied, and they used criminal methods (b + e) to access his medical records in aid of that goal and they also wiretapped him without a warrant, among other issues.

This is not "similar" to Snowden. Ellsberg didn't run and sell his information in exchange for room and board to our adversaries. He simply revealed an analysis of historical records going back over twenty years that showed that DoD wasn't being forthright with both Congress and the American people about the conduct of a very specific war that we were prosecuting in Southeast Asia, and that a number of Administrations were facilitating that dissimulation.

And where's Snowden's "Mike Gravel," pray tell? If you recall, he read several thousand pages of the documents Ellsberg had worked on into the Congressional Record, and that's when we all learned that a Senator can't be tried for treason or what-have-you for ANYTHING they say on the Senate floor. So who has stepped forward to hook Eddie up in that fashion? Why isn't anyone "pulling a Mike" on his behalf? It ain't Bernie Sanders. It ain't Dandy Randy Paul. They don't want ES shot, but they do want him to face that music you seem to be excoriating me about--and I'll bet they'd be singing a different tune if he'd gone to THEM and not Vladimir Putin. They don't want him locked up forever and the key thrown away, but they both agree he should do some jail time.

See, Snowden isn't getting the same "circle the wagons" protection from public figures (and many spoke out on behalf of Ellsberg) because Ellsberg didn't run away. He stayed and made his case. That's called "facing the music" you see. Snowden, though, took off to Hong Kong and hid in the RUSSIAN Consulate. That's the opposite of "facing the music"--and he has continued to release documents, almost in a taunting fashion, that have damaged our intelligence posture. Who knows if he's revealed more to China and Russia that has endangered both our operatives and assets--we have no way of knowing, because he cannot be trusted.

Further, he's got more shit out there in the cloud, and he's determined to keep dropping bits here and there, like turds, every time the attention drifts away from himself--and that, in and of itself, is a curious thing...how long will Pootie ignore the fact that he told Snowden he could stay, so long as he stopped leaking information damaging to the USA? At any time, at any moment, USA could cut a deal with Russia, and the more Snowden leaks, the more he paints himself into a corner from which he'll not be able to extricate himself.

So, you can "Hmmmmmmm" all day to yourself, but the cases are apples and oranges; they're just not the same at all.