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In reply to the discussion: The Racist Origins of the term “Thug”. [View all]Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,480 posts)7. So then, it's not quite complete. But clearly the writer was just focusing on how the word came
into the English language through the British colonists and eventually became racially loaded, rather than trying to give a complete history of the Thuggee.
This article goes into a lot more detail on the history of the cult itself, including this:
Accounts of a secret cult of murderers roaming India go back at least as far as the 13th century, but to modern history their story usually begins with the entrance of the British Empire in the early 1800s. For some years, Indias British administrators had been hearing reports of large numbers of travelers disappearing on the countrys roads; but, while disturbing, such incidents were not entirely unusual for the time. It was not until the discovery of a series of eerily similar mass graves across India that the truth began to dawn. Each site was piled with the bodies of individuals ritually murdered and buried in the same meticulous fashion, leading to an inescapable conclusion: these killings were the work of a single, nation-spanning organization. It was known as Thuggee.
It's all new to me, so I don't know how accurate any of these sources are. This one sounds convincing, though.
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It's called reappropriation. Maybe you should do a little light reading on it.
Gravitycollapse
Jan 2014
#83
Dammit. I hate when I do that! Link added. Thanks for the heads up.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#3
I think this isn't quite correct. It wasn't particularly "British colonialists" the thuggee
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#6
So then, it's not quite complete. But clearly the writer was just focusing on how the word came
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#7
I think the author's linking the British use of the word under colonialism to current use is kind
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#39
They never try to back up their claim that the British used it as a racial term
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#80
I don't know, maybe as far detached from specificity as your response.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#11
It *is* about usage. But it's not about what *you* hear. It's nice for you that you don't
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#34
That would be a reasonable objection if the author claimed the word "thug" was racist simply
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#12
What is it that you just don't see? And, surely you don't believe that that of which you are unaware
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#15
The word thug *can* be used to describe any dangerous man or women. In fact, any word, *can* be
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#28
the word boondocks comes from the Filipino tagalog word bundoks which means mountains
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#17
Yeah, kind of in the same way that the etymology of "whore" refers to girl?
Gravitycollapse
Jan 2014
#24
Of course any word *can* be used in *any* way. But the current discussion is about the fact that
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#38
It may be used in a racist way today (though I don't think so). But that has nothing to do
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#41
Are you using Raymond Chandler's 1950's books to support your claim about usage in the Indian
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#44
Yes, because it demonstrates that there is no such straight line between British usage during
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#46
Defending the article like it's gold? Where do you get that? In fact, please note that this is my
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#47
Richard Sherman sure seems to think it's racist. He made the comment that no one
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#22
Wellllll, what does he know? I mean, some dudes here on DU never heard that shit, so Sherman's
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#33
Yet I'd wager that Trayvon Martin was called a thug about a thousand times as often as Zimmy was.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#29
If you examine the results for Zimmerman thug, a large number of them are people responding to those
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#43
I'm not going to argue about something so meaningless. The fact is that thug has been widely
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#45
Oh. I see. Your argument doesn't hold water, so suddenly the discussion is meaningless. Riiiiihgt.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#49
It wasn't an "argument". The number of hits a phrase gets on the internet is essentially meaning-
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#52
No shit, Sherlock! That's what I was telling you. YOU're the one who posted your pointless search
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#55
Ha! That was awesome! I can't wait to check out some of his other ones.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#30
and just why is the media concentrating on Sherman and Derrick Coleman is getting no
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#32
Most news outlets cater to the lowest instincts of the human race. Sadly, that's what sells.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#35
K&R This & the frequent use of the term by authoritarians to describe union members is why I am a Thug.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#51
The thuggees were a specific Indian cult that went in for murdering people, not just any Indians.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2014
#54
What's your point? Does the article say thuggees went in for murdering just any Indians?
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#56
Sure, any word CAN be used in a racist way. We're talking about this particular word that IS
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#60
Does this mean "union thugs" refers only to non-white members of a union? n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#63