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In reply to the discussion: The Racist Origins of the term “Thug”. [View all]dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)62. Yes
Conveys anyone who inflicts extreme violence regardless of whether they are black or white whatvever. Sometimes..........I recall a woman here in the UK knee capping another woman at the local shopping centre , using a a pick axe handle with a 6" nail driven though the end , one sunny Saturday afternoon, and yes she was white.
I suppose some of our football hooligans could so be described are too regardless of race or ethnic origin. Same applies to the whole of Europe.
I have no concept of the background to the current obsession of attempts to redifine words. I've never know the word to be used in a racist fashion and until recently don't recall the word being used here on DU over the past 7 years at all.
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It's called reappropriation. Maybe you should do a little light reading on it.
Gravitycollapse
Jan 2014
#83
Dammit. I hate when I do that! Link added. Thanks for the heads up.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#3
I think this isn't quite correct. It wasn't particularly "British colonialists" the thuggee
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#6
So then, it's not quite complete. But clearly the writer was just focusing on how the word came
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#7
I think the author's linking the British use of the word under colonialism to current use is kind
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#39
They never try to back up their claim that the British used it as a racial term
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#80
I don't know, maybe as far detached from specificity as your response.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#11
It *is* about usage. But it's not about what *you* hear. It's nice for you that you don't
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#34
That would be a reasonable objection if the author claimed the word "thug" was racist simply
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#12
What is it that you just don't see? And, surely you don't believe that that of which you are unaware
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#15
The word thug *can* be used to describe any dangerous man or women. In fact, any word, *can* be
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#28
the word boondocks comes from the Filipino tagalog word bundoks which means mountains
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#17
Yeah, kind of in the same way that the etymology of "whore" refers to girl?
Gravitycollapse
Jan 2014
#24
Of course any word *can* be used in *any* way. But the current discussion is about the fact that
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#38
It may be used in a racist way today (though I don't think so). But that has nothing to do
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#41
Are you using Raymond Chandler's 1950's books to support your claim about usage in the Indian
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#44
Yes, because it demonstrates that there is no such straight line between British usage during
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#46
Defending the article like it's gold? Where do you get that? In fact, please note that this is my
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#47
Richard Sherman sure seems to think it's racist. He made the comment that no one
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#22
Wellllll, what does he know? I mean, some dudes here on DU never heard that shit, so Sherman's
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#33
Yet I'd wager that Trayvon Martin was called a thug about a thousand times as often as Zimmy was.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#29
If you examine the results for Zimmerman thug, a large number of them are people responding to those
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#43
I'm not going to argue about something so meaningless. The fact is that thug has been widely
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#45
Oh. I see. Your argument doesn't hold water, so suddenly the discussion is meaningless. Riiiiihgt.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#49
It wasn't an "argument". The number of hits a phrase gets on the internet is essentially meaning-
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#52
No shit, Sherlock! That's what I was telling you. YOU're the one who posted your pointless search
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#55
Ha! That was awesome! I can't wait to check out some of his other ones.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#30
and just why is the media concentrating on Sherman and Derrick Coleman is getting no
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#32
Most news outlets cater to the lowest instincts of the human race. Sadly, that's what sells.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#35
K&R This & the frequent use of the term by authoritarians to describe union members is why I am a Thug.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#51
The thuggees were a specific Indian cult that went in for murdering people, not just any Indians.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2014
#54
What's your point? Does the article say thuggees went in for murdering just any Indians?
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#56
Sure, any word CAN be used in a racist way. We're talking about this particular word that IS
Dark n Stormy Knight
Jan 2014
#60
Does this mean "union thugs" refers only to non-white members of a union? n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#63