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abelenkpe

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67. Secure your guns

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:19 PM

Jan 2014

Gun owners should be required by law to keep their guns locked and away from children. It would save so many lives. I don't understand why that's so difficult to accomplish.

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William Rivers Pitt | An Open Letter to Lovers of the Gun [View all] CreekDog Jan 2014 OP

You are correct Mr. Pitt, but the Democratic elected/candidates need to drop this, Todays_Illusion Jan 2014 #1

Hey, CreekDog posts a gun thread in GD! Skip Intro Jan 2014 #2

U Mad Bro? WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #4

nah, not really Skip Intro Jan 2014 #7

LOL, that's funny CreekDog Jan 2014 #44

LMAO Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #223

I like cjeekdog! n/t JTFrog Jan 2014 #5

"I like CjeekDgg" Electric Monk Jan 2014 #6

Great pic of billh58 Jan 2014 #19

Is your primary concern the "rules" (which I care about more than you, but I digress...) or... CreekDog Jan 2014 #25

Skip, I'll bet in the past 5 years, you haven't gotten as many recommends as Will's column here did CreekDog Jan 2014 #256

I was going to post this WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #3

The conservatives will alert on it Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #9

they have, there are two alerts on this already CreekDog Jan 2014 #22

I prefer to think of it as a "school shooting" thread primarily and... ReasonableToo Jan 2014 #145

The rules are pretty clear. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #11

you know the big rule --help Democrats, remember that one? CreekDog Jan 2014 #21

You want to talk about rules? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #23

I could be insulted, but you're nicer to me than you have ever been to Obama CreekDog Jan 2014 #28

You can also be insuting, but that ain't news to anybody, is it? n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #40

Not to Obama, not to Trayvon Martin... CreekDog Jan 2014 #41

Helping democrats would entail... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #118

you know what Will? CreekDog Jan 2014 #80

Agreed. lisby Jan 2014 #183

Guns kill people. ileus Jan 2014 #8

Some people ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #186

Dear Mr. Pitt, Skip Intro Jan 2014 #10

OK WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #13

Well, sir Skip Intro Jan 2014 #18

"I didn't see anything in your piece about securing guns, btw" WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #24

There was a sentence. My mistake on that. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #36

Uh oh. You said "black and white". he's going to call that racist. CreekDog Jan 2014 #38

a friend trying to follow the link to your article said the website appears to be blocked in Canada Voice for Peace Jan 2014 #120

:facepalm: jeff47 Jan 2014 #26

Well, if folks didn't blame/complain about all gun owners what would they have to do? The Straight Story Jan 2014 #27

Then why don't you solve the problem? jeff47 Jan 2014 #31

I don't own a gun. The Straight Story Jan 2014 #39

Argument is still the same. jeff47 Jan 2014 #42

I don't like drunk drivers. Let's ban alcohol too. The Straight Story Jan 2014 #43

Still doesn't change the argument. jeff47 Jan 2014 #46

We must ban cars. Think how many lives would be saved! Skip Intro Jan 2014 #48

Cars are regulated already CreekDog Jan 2014 #57

Do you value cars over the lives of children? n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #60

how many different games are you trying to play in this one thread? CreekDog Jan 2014 #77

CreekDog, you mad bro? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #84

It's not medicine you're dishing, it's something else. lisby Jan 2014 #185

What guns do you want to ban? Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #89

Aaaaaand this is where the argument breaks down LittleBlue Jan 2014 #70

I hear the same thing from right wingers RetroLounge Jan 2014 #96

you just did CreekDog Jan 2014 #105

LOL! RetroLounge Jan 2014 #108

If we are going to ban cars, we have to ban ALL modes of transportation, including ALL horses. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #97

both alcohol and motor vehicles are highly regulated. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #49

Really? Do you have to keep alcohol locked up? Can anyone buy it? The Straight Story Jan 2014 #52

I did not say "regulated identically" did I? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #55

45 million plus own guns. Do you favor daily house to house checks by the government? The Straight Story Jan 2014 #61

Actually 40 to 45 million people in America own a handgun. 70 to 80 million own ... spin Jan 2014 #229

You're playing chess with a pigeon Electric Monk Jan 2014 #53

Due to the enactment of strict laws billh58 Jan 2014 #50

Already less than one percent of people with guns use them to harm others The Straight Story Jan 2014 #56

and what is the percentage of people who don't have guns that use guns to harm others? CreekDog Jan 2014 #59

If you inlcude tax payers who fund our military and vote? The Straight Story Jan 2014 #63

don't try to change the subject CreekDog Jan 2014 #71

I agree with your assertion that billh58 Jan 2014 #73

That's what most Second Amendment supporters advocate, UBCs and harsh penalties for lawbreakers. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #233

Perfect example of the same arguments used by the right-wing RetroLounge Jan 2014 #95

So, in other words, the logic is sound so you play the 'rw does it too!' card The Straight Story Jan 2014 #125

Well, unless one paid attention to the history of one posting the same right-wing arguments RetroLounge Jan 2014 #192

"we'll solve it our way." former9thward Jan 2014 #62

Because we don't have the power. Yet. jeff47 Jan 2014 #65

The number of people owning guns is not dropping. former9thward Jan 2014 #72

There's a reason I said "households" and not "number of guns sold". jeff47 Jan 2014 #75

Yet? former9thward Jan 2014 #83

Finally a breath of fresh air, a gun owner that is honest! A Simple Game Jan 2014 #101

"the tipping point is fast approaching" former9thward Jan 2014 #102

"historically the vast majority of guns in America were used by their owners to rob people..." cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #126

With a user name like yours you should be able to figure it out. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #190

Cool story, bro. From a Gallup poll LittleBlue Jan 2014 #79

And already covered that. jeff47 Jan 2014 #81

"I covered that" LittleBlue Jan 2014 #82

The "number of households with guns" is completely irrelevant. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #132

What I find really amusing here lisby Jan 2014 #187

SLAM! Thanks for the poll, LittleBlue. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #100

Interesting. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #137

Nor have I ... yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #220

Hey! NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #221

oh!!! yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #228

If we're already below 50% what's your holdup? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #158

How was it determined that the number of homes with firearms has dropped? ... spin Jan 2014 #231

What do you mean, 'if'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #157

"it is a right" That has been obscenely interpreted by the NRA and their gun-loving supporters... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #94

Always with the 'gun loving' from some folks, is that because The Straight Story Jan 2014 #133

What "right" are you referring to, my friend? The bastardized "right" that says that you can kill madinmaryland Jan 2014 #154

What "right" says "well-regulated? What the fuck does that even mean? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #211

With the exeption of the one on my side, all of mine ARE locked up. oneshooter Jan 2014 #64

You're the one trying to keep the guns. jeff47 Jan 2014 #68

You're not answering the question. oneshooter Jan 2014 #91

Make it a legal requirement with severe penalties for failure to comply. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #179

And how do you propose to prove"failure to comply". oneshooter Jan 2014 #194

Well, lets see, I suppose in Moar Gunz Wurld, door to door daily searches. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #195

So you only have insults and ignorence to answer with. oneshooter Jan 2014 #197

"So you only have insults and ignorence to answer with." Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #199

Is it wrong to laugh at the way he spelled 'ignorance'? Electric Monk Jan 2014 #209

yes it is wrong, very very wrong. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #210

Says the guy who spells more "moar", guns "gunz", and world "wurld". Irony you can cut with a knife. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #222

What do I want you to do? rdharma Jan 2014 #230

So you carry a gun while alerting gun threads in GD CreekDog Jan 2014 #245

In my own home, on my own property, I shall do as I please. oneshooter Jan 2014 #249

Some here think you answer to them, you know. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #252

"Childish games"? That's hilarious, coming from someone who was caught red-handed alert stalking Electric Monk Jan 2014 #262

Please tone down your paranoia, okay? CreekDog Jan 2014 #255

Why, don't you believe that they can read for themselves? oneshooter Jan 2014 #260

THIS^^^^ calimary Jan 2014 #90

+100. Excellent post! n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #33

No true Scottish gun owners... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #30

Secure your guns abelenkpe Jan 2014 #67

With the exception of the one on my side, all of my firearms are locked up. oneshooter Jan 2014 #76

You walk around with a gun? IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2014 #140

And that is part of the problem. oneshooter Jan 2014 #148

When you end your posts with "What else do you want me to do?" IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2014 #150

You are talking to someone who places more value on his tools than on human life. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #189

I place a value on my tools, the thiefs decided that the value was too high for them. oneshooter Jan 2014 #196

I own nothing I'm prepared to kill for. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #212

Even your own life? n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #225

My life I will defend and if necessary, kill to preserve. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #232

Like gun toting, gun promotion, and gun profiteering are so progressive, oneshooter? Hoyt Jan 2014 #203

Again your personnel hatred of firearms and firearm owners colors your every post. oneshooter Jan 2014 #226

Why does this common sense from you engender such rage? lisby Jan 2014 #184

I know you've always felt this way, Will, tavalon Jan 2014 #207

I like cjeekdog! RetroLounge Jan 2014 #93

I believe that the billh58 Jan 2014 #12

"and gun deaths are forecast to exceed gun deaths in just a couple of years." sked14 Jan 2014 #14

Thanks for the catch. billh58 Jan 2014 #15

Actually lancer78 Jan 2014 #205

There is that NRA lie billh58 Jan 2014 #208

I'm just going to say it…The students died doing what the gun user loved most…using a gun to shoot.. Tikki Jan 2014 #16

To the die-hard billh58 Jan 2014 #17

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness SCantiGOP Jan 2014 #34

This. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #20

You are correct that billh58 Jan 2014 #32

Very interesting. Thanks. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #35

And still, their gun death rate is higher than neighboring countries CreekDog Jan 2014 #214

Too true, billh58 Jan 2014 #215

Yes I agree with your posts CreekDog Jan 2014 #236

Thats because lancer78 Jan 2014 #206

If anyone ever gets a chance to see Mike Daisey perform his new show, The Story of the Gun, mnhtnbb Jan 2014 #29

How do you get someone who doesn't want to feel like they need a gun... L0oniX Jan 2014 #37

You are not going to get anywhere with most of this group when it comes to name calling and insults Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #162

Rule Number One grantcart Jan 2014 #45

I like cars wercal Jan 2014 #47

2 sentances. 1 great point. Captain Stern Jan 2014 #113

i keep two cars hidden under my coat tiny elvis Jan 2014 #169

Imagine no guns. Then, imagine no cars. Martin Eden Jan 2014 #178

My gunz are kept in a safe. Always. Glad I could help. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #51

Good for you. Surely you would support laws requiring your excellent gun practices. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #58

I do wholeheartedly, and have stated as much many times. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #69

Always in a safe, eh? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #74

I was in the house alone. Dorner's truck was abandoned half a mile away. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #87

It's OK if you were home alone and scared. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #88

No, I don't have that issue. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #104

How is it? beevul Jan 2014 #112

He was doing his level best to call me a coward without committing his marbles to the game. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #122

"Most gun owners are scared of their own shadow" seveneyes Jan 2014 #116

See my post #122. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #123

Second request for link. Hello? Cali_Democrat? You there? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #240

Massively excellent find. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #180

Massively. In fact, the two of you are so massively excellent, I can't posit how you manage to wrap cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #191

They're Meta dead-enders playing a tired game. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #239

It is not the anti-gun people who are going to make this right. It is the pro-gun people... Aldo Leopold Jan 2014 #54

My gun is secure LittleBlue Jan 2014 #66

Man, internet "Democrats" sure are a lot different than real world Democrats MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #78

How so? red dog 1 Jan 2014 #99

you would know nt NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #131

Gun ownership practices haven't changed that much over 3-4 years aikoaiko Jan 2014 #85

Yeah, the gun has nothing to do with it. It's the media. RetroLounge Jan 2014 #98

I didn't say that guns didn't have anything to do with the shootings. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #103

MOAR GUNZ! RetroLounge Jan 2014 #107

I love it. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #110

Retro Can Do Much Better HangOnKids Jan 2014 #164

He gave as good as he got CreekDog Jan 2014 #216

I don't have anything to prove. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #224

It's going nowhere thank you very much CreekDog Jan 2014 #235

I'm wondering what the spelling problem has to do with the discussion... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #124

lmgtfy Electric Monk Jan 2014 #129

+100 n/t billh58 Jan 2014 #134

So you're saying that if you heard someone say "More guns", your Mind's Eye would see "Moar gunz"? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #135

Seriously? If you've never heard a 2nd Am supporter say that, you haven't been paying attention. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #139

I must be blind. Could you point me to the "MOAR GUNS" part of that post? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #141

Read the part in bold where LaPierre said "the problem is there weren't enough ... guns" Electric Monk Jan 2014 #143

So in this case, the ellipsis is your friend... the quote WASN'T "there weren't enough guns". cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #146

I skipped that part because it's irrelevant, since the "good guys" gun ended in the "bad guys" hands Electric Monk Jan 2014 #147

Well, it's a free country (mostly) so between cleaning and polishing your gun RetroLounge Jan 2014 #193

So let's say a Liberal gun owner agrees with your message. dilby Jan 2014 #86

Righteous rant Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #92

Is the Guns Dogs forum the third place for guns, now? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #106

Did I post this thread? WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #111

It would seem they'd rather you not write about it at all, anywhere, ever. It offends their Electric Monk Jan 2014 #119

Will Pitt: "I was going to post this..." Skip Intro Jan 2014 #130

Yeah, kind of drains the "moral" swamp of this OP. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #136

Wow you are brave HangOnKids Jan 2014 #165

Some come hear to laugh, some come to hate. Compassion? Not so much. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #177

You came here and criticized Will Pitt for my post here on DU CreekDog Jan 2014 #219

I knew Mr. Pitt wrote it, oh clever one; the fact you posted it... Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #238

The only thing you aren't playing in this thread is "dumb" CreekDog Jan 2014 #244

You need to calm down & take less personal interest in me. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #246

I think CreekDog seems plenty calm, and is taking an appropriate amount of interest Electric Monk Jan 2014 #251

Feel the love, you say? Is it real or is it Memorex? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #253

One gun worshiper stands alone. I like the whole solo cowboy self-aggrandizing thing. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #241

Not into rodeos. Re-read the "piece:" Same ol' attack & smear. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #247

Hey get it right, he was going to post this but did not CreekDog Jan 2014 #218

His screen name is in honor of Eleanor Roosevelt's gun CreekDog Jan 2014 #217

I agree, I was surprised to find gun related user names here. Seems odd. Hoyt Jan 2014 #227

I see another of the gun-crazy culture warriors has rung in, who is more concerned about their gunz madinmaryland Jan 2014 #114

Oh brother. What a crock. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #127

That's the problem, my friend. How do we deal with the issue madinmaryland Jan 2014 #153

Sad discussion of this issue has been injected with such bullshit. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #156

Really? madinmaryland Jan 2014 #159

The name is Pitt. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #121

+100. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #128

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #109

+ 1000 red dog 1 Jan 2014 #117

When assholes are outlawed, only outlaws will have assholes... red dog 1 Jan 2014 #115

I am neutral on guns yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #138

Could it be the No Gun Zones are designated as such because they'd be likely rampage targets? Electric Monk Jan 2014 #142

Could be. Straw Man Jan 2014 #173

"If we make the United States a 'No Gun Zone' will people follow the law?" red dog 1 Jan 2014 #176

You mean like the Navy yard? Doctor_J Jan 2014 #200

Pretty elementary. The more guns in a society the higher the gun violence. ErikJ Jan 2014 #144

Then why has the murder rate in the US plummeted while the number of guns... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #149

Gun Violence Study Links State Levels Of Gun Ownership And Homicide ErikJ Jan 2014 #151

They mention only gun homicides; do other types not matter? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #152

What utter shit. flvegan Jan 2014 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #167

You know he won't answer that. Nor will Geekdog. N/T cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #170

It is about a gun culture that has gone horribly wrong. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #198

Have you joined the NRA? WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #201

I absolutely have not joined the NRA, and never will. flvegan Jan 2014 #237

"Are you now or have you ever been..." nt Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #248

I think the standards required to be a "legal" gun owner are too lax CreekDog Jan 2014 #257

gun nuts are the biggest cowards on the planet Skittles Jan 2014 #160

This comment is really useful in this discussion. Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #163

I wasn't trying to be USEFUL Skittles Jan 2014 #166

Yeah I can see that "I wasn't trying to be useful" Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #168

oh please Skittles Jan 2014 #171

Doubling down, good tactic Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #172

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Skittles Jan 2014 #174

"Keep your security gun tight" Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #175

They won't believe you. They're creating new vistas of reality! Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #243

I tend to stay out of these debates. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #161

In a society flooded with unregulated gunz a bully problem is a gun problem. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #181

That's it, what you said. n/t Whisp Jan 2014 #234

K&r... spanone Jan 2014 #182

What an enlightening thread ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #188

There's going to be a special report on kids and guns on ABC's 20/20 this Friday. factsarenotfair Jan 2014 #202

I plan on watching. Previews include daddies teaching their little kids to blast away with AR15s at Hoyt Jan 2014 #204

Just like the KKK -- billh58 Jan 2014 #213

Your post is why few take gun control setiously. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #242

your posts on this topic and your screen name honoring Eleanor Roosevelt's gun are why few CreekDog Jan 2014 #258

Oh! Creekdog. We have to quit meeting like this. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #259

K&R Chorophyll Jan 2014 #250

The rights of non- gun owners mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #254

K&R Exactly like Wall St investors. raouldukelives Jan 2014 #261