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ancianita

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309. I don't think support means what you think it means. Support is often confused with agreement.

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:25 PM

Feb 2014

Look. One doesn't have to agree with Obama to support him. Support takes many forms, but agreement isn't necessarily one of them.

Support isn't blind. Support is a form of loyalty but not blind loyalty. Criticisms of this president are ongoing in DU. What most people support are long term policies and actions that do the greatest good for the greatest number. Understanding the obstructions and downright authoritarian moves of this Congress and how the president compromises, isn't a form of support. It's the process by which supporters are enabled to "hold his feet to the fire," as he once encouraged his supporters to do.

Support of this president, for all his missteps or flawed decisions, is more based on long term trust. One or even several bad decisions should not end support. Those actions should provoke criticism and debate, but not necessarily the removal of support. Support is the commitment to a larger political process and vision for the country. It should not simply be conflated with agreement over the actions of the president.

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I will never, ever fucking ever understand supporting everything a president says and does. [View all] cali Feb 2014 OP

"It's a sickness to devote yourself blindly to a politician. " ProSense Feb 2014 #1

Do you agree or disagree? Wind Dancer Feb 2014 #8

No, I don't ProSense Feb 2014 #17

So you try to shift the discussion to ODS and not answer the question about rhett o rick Feb 2014 #188

"shift the discussion to ODS"? ProSense Feb 2014 #192

I think the OP is referring to the BFBO syndrome. "Blindly Following Barack Obama." It's just an rhett o rick Feb 2014 #203

"Blindly Following Barack Obama." ProSense Feb 2014 #209

No no, they arent that terrible. But good for a bit of an amuse once in a while. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #219

I beg to differ ProSense Feb 2014 #223

Sadly lives are at stake, but those that wallow in the comfort of the status quo dont rhett o rick Feb 2014 #229

Yes, the "BFBO" ProSense Feb 2014 #231

Now where have I heard THAT before??? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #333

It's not about condemning, brainiacs, it's about grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #278

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2014 #213

Lol!! Katashi_itto Feb 2014 #365

I dont think she will commit. It's easier to take pot-shots at other posters. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #189

"And it goes way beyond DUers, so don't think this is just about DU" ProSense Feb 2014 #194

But yet you wont commit to whether or not you agree with blindly following a leader. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #199

Please ProSense Feb 2014 #202

Do you admit to BFBO? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #205

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #210

Naw, it doesnt matter to me. BytheWay do you guys keep track of who uses the ROFL emoticon rhett o rick Feb 2014 #221

"you guys" ProSense Feb 2014 #224

Oh for God’s sake.. Only uninformed idiots follow their political leaders blindly. busterbrown Feb 2014 #258

who says they're blind? YOU??? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #334

I recommend you read, "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #339

No thanks....wasn't asking for suggestions... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #342

I think there are good leaders, in fact Pres Obama is a good leader, but no leader should rhett o rick Feb 2014 #343

But who are YOU to decide WHEN a person is "blindly following" someone YOU even say is a good leader VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #347

It's simple to tell if someone is a blind follower. And I think most blind followers are proud of rhett o rick Feb 2014 #385

a person who BARELY likes anything about the Democratic party in general VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #386

I think a good Democrat is one with principles. One that decides issues on the basis of those rhett o rick Feb 2014 #387

Bottom line; I think most of us know who the sick poster is on this forum. Sick with negativity. lumpy Feb 2014 #266

Did you see the way Obama snapped that ball over Peyton's head!! JoePhilly Feb 2014 #13

My speech teacher is a huge Bronco's fan. Neoma Feb 2014 #55

Always angry Ishoutandscream2 Feb 2014 #15

And sadly, go west young man Feb 2014 #76

Lots of competition for the Angriest Poster on DU title. merrily Feb 2014 #150

Compared to those happy as good soldiers at the status quo. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #190

You are one of the last free thinkers here. Titonwan Feb 2014 #313

There are a lot of free thinkers here. They often get shouted down by "The Group". rhett o rick Feb 2014 #320

I know Titonwan Feb 2014 #328

Criticize Obama, et. al., at your own peril! 7962 Feb 2014 #361

this "joint" was founded on Democrats....you all don't get to decide what that is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #335

Two run on sentences of nonsense n/t Titonwan Feb 2014 #367

says who? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #374

Much as you woke up Monday morning and decided this would be a good response. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #23

LOL! You mean I knew someone would post the OP? ProSense Feb 2014 #31

It's as bad as any slavish devotion, like say... JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #56

Misery always needs company like a dog needs a bone. Be kind to those working things out... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #292

Why, you're one of those this op's for! Titonwan Feb 2014 #107

1-5 jury leave. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #111

Someone alerted on my comment? ProSense Feb 2014 #112

You're going to love this one...someone was trying to teach you a lesson. msanthrope Feb 2014 #119

Someone complained that Cali and ProSense disagree with each other often? merrily Feb 2014 #148

I think she lost a footsball bet. n/t Whisp Feb 2014 #136

So the answer to this would be 'NO'? freshwest Feb 2014 #297

Guess that's it, freshwest! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #312

Me, too. The whole team was great! They never saw it coming. And check this out here: freshwest Feb 2014 #325

LOL! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #331

Seattle's 'Legion of Boom' really got to them... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #338

Boeing’s Seahawks 747 traces a ’12′ over Washington sheshe2 Feb 2014 #340

And it is the Legion of Doom to the GOP! WA has Medicaid expansion and ACA programs at work! freshwest Feb 2014 #344

The future that Seattle has, looks bright to me. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #350

OMG! freshwest Feb 2014 #351

You got that right, freshwest! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #355

Get yourself out in that snow and cool off! n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #356

I agree with the OP. Its a blindness that afflicted the country with Bush/Cheney and every roguevalley Feb 2014 #168

Well, good for you. ProSense Feb 2014 #179

you either don't get what I am suggesting or you don't want to. When he's wrong, I don't support him roguevalley Feb 2014 #302

Yes, really. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #303

"That is feel-good nonsense" Titonwan Feb 2014 #330

Healthy citizens remind themselves of this every day. rug Feb 2014 #249

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #252

QED rug Feb 2014 #267

It needs to be said. 840high Feb 2014 #289

Sure. It makes everyone saying it feel superior. ProSense Feb 2014 #290

God, I miss Meta. This thread would be perfect there. Sigh. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #293

And Lo Many boats were floated that day bobduca Feb 2014 #332

If I were to think of the politician I personally admired most of any other - it would Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #2

Very well stated. asjr Feb 2014 #21

Well said, and, if I may say so, I think this reflects how most of us feel. mountain grammy Feb 2014 #45

And I think that is everyone's position ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #47

Appears to be true......doesn't it! n/t Sheepshank Feb 2014 #134

No, it most certainly isn't. At least not based on what they argue. cui bono Feb 2014 #160

A couple Questions ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #173

Then you missed the posts where people have denied that Obama ever brought cui bono Feb 2014 #184

Apparently ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #187

Now that was well done, 1StrongBlackman! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #352

+10 (nt) reACTIONary Feb 2014 #319

I don't think the OP is confusing anything at all. Th1onein Feb 2014 #183

Peversely, McGovern was used as the excuse to shift the Party right. merrily Feb 2014 #232

I believe that you are mistaking agreement with support. The latter isn't conditional on the former. ancianita Feb 2014 #308

Nor do you have to give up your support because a few perpetual malcontents VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #337

... SidDithers Feb 2014 #3

the fact is that there are people who support the president blindly- just as there cali Feb 2014 #5

I think we all know it exists, so what is the point? Those who believe as you do don't follow anyon kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #18

I don't think there are many, even a few ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #51

The OP is not confused. The evidence of blind support is all over DU. cui bono Feb 2014 #162

I suggest that there is also BLIND OPPOSITION on the loose here as well. And really it is as kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #241

I think the point is that people without their own moral compasses can allow A Simple Game Feb 2014 #60

If Hitler was a democract they would support him. OMG LMFAO sadly and possibly true L0oniX Feb 2014 #63

But Hitler would never be a Democrat, would he? treestar Feb 2014 #240

Hitler got a lot of his power by catering to the working people, nearly eliminating unemployment jtuck004 Feb 2014 #255

And that is precisely the point. Titonwan Feb 2014 #116

Bravo kjones Feb 2014 #175

Sorry if you got the impression I disagreed with them. For the most part I agree with them. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #211

Even Canadians support our president blindly like every policy decision is manna from heaven. L0oniX Feb 2014 #61

That is strange, but know what you are talking about. Rex Feb 2014 #69

Not this Canadian Fiendish Thingy Feb 2014 #72

I almost moved to BC when Bush got elected. L0oniX Feb 2014 #73

Not blindly. please read my replies riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #399

I like Obama but I do not like many of his policies and some of what he trys to do and not do. L0oniX Feb 2014 #402

Same here. riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #403

Interesting. Did you support ANYTHING Bush did? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #4

His support for AIDS research joeglow3 Feb 2014 #42

Oddly quiet from the lecturer Renew Deal Feb 2014 #92

You bet I did! Puglover Feb 2014 #129

And how do you feel about his critics who attack Democrats on this website? baldguy Feb 2014 #307

Critic or not Puglover Feb 2014 #348

How do you feel about people who attack Democratic ideals, such as sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #353

How does that speak to the point made in the OP? cui bono Feb 2014 #165

Strongly agree with you on this point. democratisphere Feb 2014 #6

Please name one, just one thing you support about Obama... monmouth3 Feb 2014 #7

Bush Accomplishment yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #40

Wait for it ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #54

Um, there are so many... I won't repeat them here. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #294

His administration's handling of Iran. At least so far. SMC22307 Feb 2014 #75

Cali was a staunch supporter of President Obama during the first few years of his term. bvar22 Feb 2014 #145

I really don't care to tyvm...n/t monmouth3 Feb 2014 #146

You shouldn't ask questions if you don't care to look for the answers JVS Feb 2014 #324

Yes, for a long time, Cali was VERY supportive of the president Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #269

Syria for example Enrique Feb 2014 #263

Do you have a point? If you do you hide it well. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #314

the point is Skittles Feb 2014 #349

I just have never been able to "get with the program." Maybe if they offered a different flavor of rhett o rick Feb 2014 #383

I'll tell ya a bunch. Titonwan Feb 2014 #323

GM Skittles Feb 2014 #341

I never have hero's and never trust a politician liberal N proud Feb 2014 #9

+1.nt clarice Feb 2014 #109

Extreme ODS hangovers make you feel sick to your soul. tridim Feb 2014 #10

He's on the wrong side of many important issues. jsr Feb 2014 #11

Still pissed about the endless war that Obama started in Syria I see. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #12

The media was looking forward to a non-stop horror show. Peace is just sooo boring. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #295

Some here were sure the endless war in Syria JoePhilly Feb 2014 #299

After a while... Never mind... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #301

OK-I hope you feel better now. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #14

Yep. That DU member does seem to have a problem with the President. I haven't bluestate10 Feb 2014 #318

I shall remain loyal to ideals, and politicians/parties that support those ideals. Scuba Feb 2014 #16

As much as I deplored most of what Bush said and did ... ananda Feb 2014 #19

Don't expect to change any minds, though n2doc Feb 2014 #20

I wonder how many are the same people? RC Feb 2014 #91

It's been amusing watching the adoption of BDS as the chosen dismissive epithet of the claque Fumesucker Feb 2014 #22

Yeah, the OP is dripping ProSense Feb 2014 #25

BDS was lame when Republicans used it against the left Fumesucker Feb 2014 #28

Several smarmy retorts from you in this thread and you've yet to say anything of substance. cui bono Feb 2014 #166

Is your post of "substance"? ProSense Feb 2014 #176

I support policy over individuals JonLP24 Feb 2014 #24

... 840high Feb 2014 #291

What I hate is voting for a particular candidate INdemo Feb 2014 #26

Vaporware's non-existence makes me soooooo damn angry!!!!11 tridim Feb 2014 #29

No,that is not correct INdemo Feb 2014 #360

I have been voting for Democrats since 1968 INdemo Feb 2014 #404

"Don’t follow leaders Watch the parkin’ meters" hobbit709 Feb 2014 #27

"offer me solutions.... daleanime Feb 2014 #39

It does happen other places but where it happens here it happems to an extreme!.... marble falls Feb 2014 #30

I see one member of the "same avatar" brigade showed up Fawke Em Feb 2014 #32

"I'm still pondering why they all have the same avatar." ProSense Feb 2014 #34

Hey!! ... How come nobody told me the cult has a special Avatar???? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #65

You're still junior level cultist. Be patient. randome Feb 2014 #67

Awe come one ... by the time ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #74

So ignore 2014 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #115

Well, yes. If you say so. Fawke Em Feb 2014 #280

Gotta admit, that mystery thingie there looks odd. I can't figure it out... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #298

And use the same signature ridicule ROFL emoticon. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #207

Ironically, I don't find that much ridicule. Fawke Em Feb 2014 #282

Here: ProSense Feb 2014 #33

Not just the POTUS, but any leader should always be questioned. Rex Feb 2014 #35

On the other hand I will never understand those malaise Feb 2014 #36

There are people who criticize A LOT of what Obama does, Maedhros Feb 2014 #242

waste of my time n/t albino65 Feb 2014 #37

Thanks for advising. Puglover Feb 2014 #130

I would listen to Obama if he would stop compromising and giving in to backstabbers. Crowman1979 Feb 2014 #38

Blind loyalty is simply stupid. obxhead Feb 2014 #41

I don't agree with everything Obama says or does Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #43

I agree. HappyMe Feb 2014 #48

I would add that sometimes it's too difficult here to talk about Sheepshank Feb 2014 #81

Good point treestar Feb 2014 #243

I agree davidpdx Feb 2014 #363

Focus: ProSense Feb 2014 #44

It does provide some comic relief around here though. Vattel Feb 2014 #46

Always looks like thread hi-jacking to me. Obvious as hell. djean111 Feb 2014 #52

Thread Hijacking 101: Maedhros Feb 2014 #247

and its a pro at that bobduca Feb 2014 #322

And when their argument is dismantled in one thread, they use the exact same one on the next thread, Maedhros Feb 2014 #336

Yep. If they can't bring themselves to say they disagree, then they simply deny arcane1 Feb 2014 #121

She will NEVER admit when she is wrong LondonReign2 Feb 2014 #169

well, that is a pair of shoes you never wanna don or walk a mile in stupidicus Feb 2014 #49

How about ProSense Feb 2014 #50

I can't see you saying or doing anything positive, period. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #53

And even then you should get a second opinion! Mirrors can deceive! randome Feb 2014 #58

your signature line is misleading Sheepshank Feb 2014 #78

K&R for pissing off all the right people! Rex Feb 2014 #57

I greatly admire President Obama riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #59

Pretty sad when you have to compare to something far worse, to show we really don't have it so bad. RC Feb 2014 #114

I worry about FATCA as well davidpdx Feb 2014 #366

a good website to get FATCA advice riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #388

Thanks for those davidpdx Feb 2014 #392

there are people all over the world riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #393

I wanted to send t his PDF riverbendviewgal Feb 2014 #398

i Don't watch the superbowl JI7 Feb 2014 #62

It's especially odd to assume a politician always has your well-being in mind, and attacking Dash87 Feb 2014 #64

Spot on! Rex Feb 2014 #66

I can't see criticizing every single thing he does either gollygee Feb 2014 #68

I would think the normal person would praise what they like and critique what they don't like. Rex Feb 2014 #71

Agree. PsychGrad Feb 2014 #304

Pissing and complaining is equally as dangerous, and a sickness. Sheepshank Feb 2014 #70

Look at what ProSense Feb 2014 #80

"This kind of stuff sells though." Sheepshank Feb 2014 #84

Let's see, who brought up CCPI and TPP? zeemike Feb 2014 #99

Who here supports those? ProSense Feb 2014 #101

Who there (in the Democratic party) supports those? zeemike Feb 2014 #105

Can you please provide a link to the text of CCPI and TPP laws. Thanks! tridim Feb 2014 #180

Well if they were laws it would not matter zeemike Feb 2014 #226

Supported what? A bill? Can you post the link to the bill? tridim Feb 2014 #230

Then how do we know about it if no one brought it up? zeemike Feb 2014 #234

but defending the TPP because its secret and not a bill yet bobduca Feb 2014 #375

Well I could give a link to the leaked parts. zeemike Feb 2014 #378

Yep. Really hard to believe the real purpose is to divide Democrats treestar Feb 2014 #246

"Really hard to believe" bobduca Feb 2014 #372

Nailed it. +1000 nt ecstatic Feb 2014 #400

Why the rancor over an intelligent, well thought out post? I agree Cali. nt clarice Feb 2014 #77

There is nothing "intelligent" about the OP. It's divisiveness built on strawman BS. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #82

Why am I not surprised to see you say this? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #86

It's true. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #87

Huh? nt clarice Feb 2014 #88

Explanation please. nt clarice Feb 2014 #126

Well ???? !!!!! nt. clarice Feb 2014 #380

Don't you mean that it is simply an opinion that differs from yours ? nt clarice Feb 2014 #90

You mean, ProSense Feb 2014 #93

I wasn't aware that Cali was "against the President" nt clarice Feb 2014 #97

You weren't? n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #98

No. I haven't read all of Cali's posts. nt clarice Feb 2014 #103

Just pick any one or two ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #123

Cali was a vocal supporter of President Obama during the first few years of his term. bvar22 Feb 2014 #151

Thank you. nt clarice Feb 2014 #377

I remember that too laundry_queen Feb 2014 #405

A certain group here wants you to believe that. Rex Feb 2014 #118

Why would they want to do that ??!! nt clarice Feb 2014 #124

No idea. Rex Feb 2014 #125

Just to be hurtful?. nt clarice Feb 2014 #127

I think it is more of a sport or game to them. Rex Feb 2014 #139

If you are cast from the Body then you were never really of the Body. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #329

OMFG I'm ROTFLMAO. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #239

. ProSense Feb 2014 #245

LOL! City Lights Feb 2014 #264

Yeah, it sucks that lots of people think the President has actually done good things shenmue Feb 2014 #79

That's not what the OP says. merrily Feb 2014 #217

For myself, it's not adoration or loyalty. It's the benefit of the doubt when there's a screw-up TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #83

Here's the thing: Maedhros Feb 2014 #256

THIS! Well said. PsychGrad Feb 2014 #305

Nailed it. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #396

Thank you for saying this, cali Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #85

Thanks for bringing up these excellent points. JEB Feb 2014 #110

"They don't want anyone who upsets Big Money" tblue Feb 2014 #113

No, I'm in Minneapolis Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #117

Oh God Lydia. Puglover Feb 2014 #131

A dose of reality not likely to be countered. RC Feb 2014 #120

Wow, LL! Titonwan Feb 2014 #128

Reccing this post BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #155

I know some people who have met Obama in person Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #157

No doubt he is very charismatic and photogenic BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #163

Selective history by many here. Phlem Feb 2014 #196

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #89

Wheee! ProSense Feb 2014 #96

You're up to eight ROTFLs this thread. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2014 #195

Wheeee! ProSense Feb 2014 #200

Brilliant! LiberalLovinLug Feb 2014 #204

The desperation is setting in. Wait until the Pres pardons Bush. Watch them jump thru rhett o rick Feb 2014 #317

Individuals matter because your vote is to delegate political power to them for a term FarCenter Feb 2014 #94

Agreed. Though that sort of personal loyalty crim son Feb 2014 #95

Blind loyalty is repugnant (thanx, cali!) Titonwan Feb 2014 #100

I will never, ever fucking understand Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #102

:) Sheepshank Feb 2014 #143

ALL politicians in our system of money politics heaven05 Feb 2014 #104

Strawman Monday BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #106

Indeed. arcane1 Feb 2014 #108

In a democracy, it is the peoples' responsibility to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #122

huh Phlem Feb 2014 #201

Well, I am rather new here. sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #132

I think DU is a big enough tent for all KINDS of discussion. And welcome! randome Feb 2014 #135

I will never, ever fucking ever understand... kjones Feb 2014 #133

Some people are addicted to negativity; what is sick is when it slops over into other peoples lives lumpy Feb 2014 #171

I will never understand hating on the president all day every day. bravenak Feb 2014 #137

It's not difficult to understand at all. Whisp Feb 2014 #138

You might as well say you don't understand people who kick babies. You get no objections here. stevenleser Feb 2014 #140

It's ProSense Feb 2014 #142

I am not interested in an "opinion" which is, in fact, an algorithm. In that case I already know GoneFishin Feb 2014 #141

Maybe some people just don't like to be called racists. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #144

Well, you'd make an angry post if Obama said the sky was blue jeff47 Feb 2014 #147

And if he said the sky is never blue, you'd make an argument about why that statement is right. merrily Feb 2014 #154

Only in your fantasies. jeff47 Feb 2014 #156

Only in my past experience, with your claims about the Genachowski and merrily Feb 2014 #159

Well, considering I've never typed the name Genachowski until now jeff47 Feb 2014 #170

Unquestioning support of ANY President or Politician "is both base and servile." bvar22 Feb 2014 #149

JESUS CHRIST! Whisp Feb 2014 #152

Agreed, but don't overlook the possibility of paid posters, or those merrily Feb 2014 #153

This Cleita Feb 2014 #158

I dunno I would think a paid Puglover Feb 2014 #212

Defending the administration is a way to sway people to think positive things about it. merrily Feb 2014 #216

Let's see if I can be more clear. Puglover Feb 2014 #233

Yes, if you add the accusation bit. But, merrily Feb 2014 #235

The goal of the propaganda is not to convince anyone of anything. woo me with science Feb 2014 #389

+1 Transparent as hell. woo me with science Feb 2014 #390

He does some good things, he's done some I don't like. Do I like him? No. Autumn Feb 2014 #161

let Britney explain Enrique Feb 2014 #164

yeay Britney! Phlem Feb 2014 #206

The best thing about this thread is you can tell who thinks they are doing this cui bono Feb 2014 #167

So all of those folks who respond to 'hater' accusations are haters? stevenleser Feb 2014 #174

Uh, no. I don't see "hater" anywhere except in your post. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #177

I didn't say there were hater accusation in this OP stevenleser Feb 2014 #178

I responded directly to what you said. If that's not what you meant then perhaps you can clarify. cui bono Feb 2014 #185

This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Feb 2014 #191

Wow. I asked you to clarify. If you can't do that, it's not on me. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #193

Are you willing to accept that many on DU may well disagree with the president stopbush Feb 2014 #172

I have never met anyone in real life who agrees with the President at all times. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #181

I love him, I love him, I love him Whisp Feb 2014 #182

Good one Whisp! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #251

I support the President!! Period. mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2014 #186

Same as Syria, and few other things... You figured it out. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #397

I dont know if blind devotion is a sickness, but it's certainly the lazy way out for some. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #197

Lazy for some; profitable for some; comforting for some. merrily Feb 2014 #220

Some people must keep their realities very limited because they cant handle rhett o rick Feb 2014 #227

The Jones flock ultimately handled a lot of reality. merrily Feb 2014 #228

It's similar to the "support the troops" meme Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #270

I prefer to call them the Lieberman Wing. They would endorse Chris Christie if he became rhett o rick Feb 2014 #277

It's not that they love and adore a office holder Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #198

You know. Phlem Feb 2014 #214

You're right, of course... fadedrose Feb 2014 #208

Why do we have to go to extremes? sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #215

I know Cali Phlem Feb 2014 #218

It not only is not apparent, it's flat wrong. It describes no one here or anywhere else. nt stevenleser Feb 2014 #222

You have to pay very close attention indeed to tell some posters are ever critical Fumesucker Feb 2014 #236

linkbait-ification of DU? bobduca Feb 2014 #395

If you have this kind of trouble with support of Democrats on this board treestar Feb 2014 #248

! Phlem Feb 2014 #259

I don't know anyone who does this... Phentex Feb 2014 #225

Neither does the OP. This is just to curry favor with a group of loud mouths here Number23 Feb 2014 #283

K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #237

I think it's a bit sicker to have so much resentment treestar Feb 2014 #238

You are all for Republicans holding office if you have a lot in common with them? Rex Feb 2014 #244

I have nothing in common with Republicans treestar Feb 2014 #250

Who realistically thinks the POTUS is going to do everything they want? Rex Feb 2014 #253

"I have nothing in common with Republicans", bvar22 Feb 2014 #274

RIIIIGHT........ Phlem Feb 2014 #260

So you are saying that in spite of the epic failures of past trade agreements SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #265

we should all be sick in our souls at the sight of the man arely staircase Feb 2014 #254

Oh Noes! Someone didn't like having their nonsense call out, so they're going Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #257

Nice! Phlem Feb 2014 #261

. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #262

I don't get it either, cali. City Lights Feb 2014 #268

It's simple really ProSense Feb 2014 #275

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2014 #271

And I will never understand the people, like yourself, who complain bitterly about every kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #272

Hate? Aww, I've never heard that word before, ever! Phlem Feb 2014 #273

I will never understand those who spend every waking moment criticizing the President... Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #276

Rec'd, because it brought out all the conservatives and their name-calling Corruption Inc Feb 2014 #279

you really shouldn't be so obvious in your adoration of the OP Sheepshank Feb 2014 #346

It is our JOB to lead the Prez in a positive direction, away from Republican failures, towards FDR grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #281

And I will never, ever fucking ever care Number23 Feb 2014 #284

Did someone criticize the Third Way??! warrprayer Feb 2014 #285

Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien. Gothmog Feb 2014 #286

Well... Desert805 Feb 2014 #287

Never fall in love 840high Feb 2014 #288

Politicians LIE. Don't believe LIARS. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #296

No shit Huh!? Phlem Feb 2014 #321

recommend frwrfpos Feb 2014 #300

To me, the important fact is that they work for US, not the other way around. alarimer Feb 2014 #306

^^^THIS^^^ Phlem Feb 2014 #326

I don't think support means what you think it means. Support is often confused with agreement. ancianita Feb 2014 #309

America is composed of mostly fan girls these days. pam4water Feb 2014 #310

Supporting things like TPP, KXL, chained CPI for the SS, and other Republican ideas is bad Doctor_J Feb 2014 #311

No one here does. But you seem to think many do, for some unknown reason. bluestate10 Feb 2014 #315

Agreed. frustrated_lefty Feb 2014 #316

It's funny how some are so defensive over this post. neverforget Feb 2014 #327

I appreciate their reactions bobduca Feb 2014 #373

They certainly reveal themselves, don't they. woo me with science Feb 2014 #391

they most certainly do. neverforget Feb 2014 #394

cali, i don't think it's as prevalent as you think. dionysus Feb 2014 #345

me too! gopiscrap Feb 2014 #354

politics as sport TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #357

They are either simpletons or it is their job. morningfog Feb 2014 #358

I will never understand how your Strawman posts get so many recs scheming daemons Feb 2014 #359

Because if you don't rec it you're a "moron," "simpleton," or "paid shill." ProSense Feb 2014 #362

Blind acrimony. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #368

Interesting is that cali takes a position and will espouse that position. The Group will criticize rhett o rick Feb 2014 #369

Horseshit. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #370

Ok, tell my The Group's position on the TPP? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #381

Case ProSense Feb 2014 #371

Do you guys have a position on the TPP? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #382

My philosophy is simple I praise Presidents when I think they are right Liberalynn Feb 2014 #364

kick for a certain someone. cali Feb 2014 #376

and this is a grand illustration cali Feb 2014 #379

Neither will I. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #384

I second that RedstDem Feb 2014 #401