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18. In their respective fields, Andrew Wakefield or Arpad Pusztai come to mind. Take it to the bank.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:48 AM
Feb 2014

Last edited Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:00 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/02/cnn-runs-scared-from-the-truth-about-andrew-wakefield.html

CNN Runs Scared from the Truth about Andrew Wakefield
By John Stone


An incident on a CNN blog on Friday morning revealed how sensitive the news channel could be about arguing with the official dogma surrounding Andrew Wakefield. When the present writer – posting at breakfast UK time and the middle of the night Eastern - contested the fraud allegations repeated in an op ed piece by Frank Y. Wong, an associate professor at the Rollins School of Public Health, Emory University the news channel responded with blocking tactics. Pointing to the exoneration of Wakefield’s senior colleague and author, Prof John Walker-Smith, in the British high court two years ago, I was immediately countered by a poster called “Tony” quoting paragraphs from the Wiki entry on Andrew Wakefield. I then found that my next response went straight into moderation never to see the light of day and a similar comment forwarded to me by an acquaintance was also blocked by the same method. The page now reveals that no less than nine responses to “Tony” were deleted (presumably all before publication).

The Wiki entry on Andrew Wakefield has a pharmaceutical Praetorian guard surrounding it preventing it from ever being corrected, and plainly CNN realised that they were on to a loser if this discussion continued. My deleted comment read: HIGHLY ACCURATE AND ARCANE/TECHNICAL.

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So Wiki does not tell you any of this but repeats an account that is long disproven.

And shamefully CNN are hiding behind it.

John Stone is UK Editor for Age of Autism.

Posted by Age of Autism on February 10, 201 at 5:46 AM
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holy shit. dionysus Feb 2014 #1
Glad to hear that one ground breaking scientist will escape with his reputation intact. truedelphi Feb 2014 #2
Who will be the Carl Sagan for this generation? reusrename Feb 2014 #10
In their respective fields, Andrew Wakefield or Arpad Pusztai come to mind. Take it to the bank. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #18
Perhaps Dr. Hansen? reusrename Feb 2014 #20
Dr. Tyson is hosting the new Cosmos, starts in March on Fox siligut Feb 2014 #45
How excellent! reusrename Feb 2014 #47
I watching Dr. Tyson a while back on The Daily Show rickyhall Feb 2014 #67
Didn't Andrew Wakefield fabricate a research paper purporting to show a link between the MMR vaccine EOTE Feb 2014 #44
.. reusrename Feb 2014 #46
If you have any information to the contrary, I'd love to see it. EOTE Feb 2014 #52
Don't you know about the ongoing libel suit? Read up here, including comments (some, not all). proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #114
Wakefield is a destructive con-man, not a respected doctor. FSogol Feb 2014 #51
I was wondering if that suggestion was supposed to be tongue in cheek. EOTE Feb 2014 #53
That's what I though too until I read the post which implies that FSogol Feb 2014 #54
The anti-vaccine garbage has been debunked countless times yet they still cling to it. EOTE Feb 2014 #56
That's a completely different argument. reusrename Feb 2014 #96
Wakefield is a pseudoscientist. EOTE Feb 2014 #97
Right, MMR. Wrong to all the rest. Nice straw man, by the way. reusrename Feb 2014 #98
I'd suggest looking up what a straw man actually is. EOTE Feb 2014 #99
I thought you were trying to say that I advocated that crap, which isn't true. reusrename Feb 2014 #100
Nope, I wouldn't presume to know. EOTE Feb 2014 #101
Check it out. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #106
This, too. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #107
Or, "Our stories, our successes, our anecdotes are the first step in the scientific process." proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #104
Unfamiliar with the facts? Join the club. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #74
Note to self: Buy stock in Alcoa. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #75
Yeah, ridicule, that works. (nt) proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #79
You know what doesn't work? Anything "Dr" Wakefield suggests. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #80
I once tried to correct a very damaging and erroneuous section of commentary truedelphi Feb 2014 #66
What seems like a branding process results in opinions which appear intransigent regardless of facts proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #78
Yes those stories are far too numerous and far too truedelphi Feb 2014 #85
Speak for yourself, please, I'm too prickly for the royal 'we.' proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #91
What does Carl Sagan have to do with this story of a scientist being surveilled and smeared for El_Johns Feb 2014 #109
Thank you for this. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #3
Sounds exactly like the smear campaign against Greenwald. I actually recognize some of the talking sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #4
+a whole lot..... daleanime Feb 2014 #6
Agreed 110%. K&R nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #7
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #8
I see what you did there neverforget Feb 2014 #12
+1 :) nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #22
i am sure by now they can handle more than 10 personas each questionseverything Feb 2014 #38
Well Done! bvar22 Feb 2014 #40
It's from the same playbook. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #31
Yes it is, exactly the same. Which means they are hiring these think tanks/security contractors to sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #72
The Center for Media and Democracy is capable, experienced and relentless sabrina 1 bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #77
Wow, those are all great sites, bobthedrummer. I wonder if they have been posted in the sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #92
Yes, I'm a drummer with 2 kits in my apartment (Tama & Ludwig) I've always had an ear for rhythm bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #103
should be illegal but it is justice dept behind it questionseverything Feb 2014 #35
There was supposed to be an investigation into that whole despicable scheme, which some Dems called sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #36
a few dems called for an investigation questionseverything Feb 2014 #39
Hank Johnson, that's who I was trying to think of. And Conyers among others, and yet, nothing has sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #68
you want I should kick your heart-hogging ass, sabrina 1? Skittles Feb 2014 #89
Lol, I hear you are a great ass kicker Skittles! sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #90
YEE HAW!!! Skittles Feb 2014 #93
Lol! n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #94
Hard to miss the connection. bvar22 Feb 2014 #41
Superb post. woo me with science Feb 2014 #71
KnR...... THANK YOU for posting this !!! alittlelark Feb 2014 #5
K&R me b zola Feb 2014 #9
K&R arikara Feb 2014 #11
Like this is "new"... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #13
glad to see that article and KT2000 Feb 2014 #14
Yep, they've turned "Seralini" into a naughty word in the sciences... drokhole Feb 2014 #48
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #15
Disturbingly reminiscent of the Karen Silkwood case. btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #16
Synchronicity. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #17
That is an incredibly gripping article in the New Yorker Hekate Feb 2014 #19
Kick Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #21
K&R nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #23
K&R. myrna minx Feb 2014 #24
Oh My Gawd! Th1onein Feb 2014 #25
Note these same tactics being used against Greenwald and Snowden:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #26
Well said and entirely accurate. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #30
This paragraph is almost exactly what the Greenwald smear campaign described in the HB Gary emails sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #110
Sherry Ford is a disgusting, psychopathic piece of shit. stillwaiting Feb 2014 #27
Disgust. jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #28
This is only the very tip of a huge iceberg. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #29
Yes, and men with "low T" can just go to the MD for a prescription siligut Feb 2014 #50
Wow. We keep saying 'Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you' ck4829 Feb 2014 #32
ABCNNBCBSFakeNoozNutwork has been all over this story. Octafish Feb 2014 #33
NPR did a story on it too. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #81
Sue. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #34
Kick nt Hissyspit Feb 2014 #37
Scientific Materialism, Inc. (R) run amuck Berlum Feb 2014 #42
As I'm reading the article (phenomenal read, btw) I'm casting the upcoming film ... brett_jv Feb 2014 #43
+1 Hissyspit Feb 2014 #61
Chuckle... ReRe Feb 2014 #76
Like the George Clooney Movie Micheal Clayton uponit7771 Feb 2014 #49
Viva La Difference boblgumm Feb 2014 #55
Think we would be a lot healthier country if USA used the EU banned chemical list. Sunlei Feb 2014 #57
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #58
What an amazing man get the red out Feb 2014 #59
Yup!! This is the real world!! hue Feb 2014 #60
Maybe we need some really strong privacy legislation? Huh???? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #62
"I'm Shiva, the God of Death" 2banon Feb 2014 #63
“What’s motivating Hayes?—basic question.” tk2kewl Feb 2014 #64
No wonder those poor corporate operatives are confused. Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #65
They are soulless monsters imo, not human, lacking all the elements that give someone the right to sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #69
Huge K&R. woo me with science Feb 2014 #70
Not even close to my worst nightmare. malthaussen Feb 2014 #73
Thanks, Hssypit ReRe Feb 2014 #82
Very interesting.. bookmarked to read later. mountain grammy Feb 2014 #83
hem allan01 Feb 2014 #84
Shit, this is probably the tip of the iceberg. blackspade Feb 2014 #86
Standard practice, I assume: to monitor and attack anything which might hurt their profits. El_Johns Feb 2014 #111
Well...yeah CFLDem Feb 2014 #87
K&R But it's like every time they are caught doing this kind of thing, people's reactions Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #88
I know, we get excited when we see these exposures, hoping that finally, something will be done sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #95
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #102
MUST SEE: Tyrone Hayes + Penelope Jagessar Chaffer: The toxic baby proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #105
That's terrible, and conspiratorial, but no, it's not nearly as paranoid and far out... Silent3 Feb 2014 #108
Cost benefit analysis measured in dollars and cents an NO sense. The EPA needs a mission infusion. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #112
Wow! The poor guy... bobGandolf Feb 2014 #113
Syngenta, DuPont Pioneer and Agrigenetics Inc. sue county of Kauai, HI. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #115
BASF joins 3 seed companies in suit against Kauai County law proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #116
More Syngenta news: "Cargill to reject for export crops with new GMO Syngenta corn trait." proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #117
Miss this? I did. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #118
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