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In reply to the discussion: Wall Street Journal thinks that rape is not a crime or that women are criminals for being raped. [View all]joeglow3
(6,228 posts)21. Define "cannot consent"
Can someone who is drunk consent to having sex?
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Wall Street Journal thinks that rape is not a crime or that women are criminals for being raped. [View all]
riqster
Feb 2014
OP
the headline is absolutely appropriate. firstly... it is what is within the text. so,
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#5
Entering the body of someone who is not able to give consent is rape. You seriously don't get this?
Squinch
Feb 2014
#76
Oh, get a grip. Clearly you think you are diabolically clever. And yet you are simply making
Squinch
Feb 2014
#91
Because there is no fine line and the suggestion that there is is disgusting. As is this
Squinch
Feb 2014
#103
no- he has made it quite obvious that he can't tell the difference between rape and sex
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#124
Not sure why you would think molesting an unconcious person is possibly okay, ever? It never is.
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#59
Your decision to now attack my maturity because of a philisophical discussion also speaks volumes
joeglow3
Feb 2014
#58
But that's precisely how you are being immature: trying to reduce a complex and painful situation
Recursion
Feb 2014
#115
it's not a philosphical arguement at all- it is about being incapciateted, which has a legal
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#126
If either partner goes beyond what has been explicitly consented to, they are in the wrong.
riqster
Feb 2014
#41
So it is possible for both the man and the woman to be guilty of rape for the same incident, right?
Nye Bevan
Feb 2014
#54
I tell you what: when 1 in 4 college-age men reports unwanted sexual activities by women, we'll talk
Recursion
Feb 2014
#114
the law centers on the person who acts without receiving consent. SIMPLE. NOT CONFUSING TO MOST.
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#63
your conclusion" -all sex between drunk people is a crime" is so fucking ridiculous- you obviously
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#67
most here are muddying the water because they PREFER it that way. i explained it's incapacitated
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#125
not interested in your ridculous hypotheticals or the assumption that people do not understand
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#123
This is the reason I don't ever have sex with a woman who has been drinking, even a girlfriend.
dilby
Feb 2014
#20
My friend and I drove almost 1,000 miles in Great Britain and never once were we passed on the wrong
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#113
Slow left lane drivers are self-centered and oblivioous, at best, and self-righteous jerks in many
Dark n Stormy Knight
Feb 2014
#74
Speaking as a 63-year-old man, this is another reason for me to hate the WSJ.
radicalliberal
Feb 2014
#27
He has a history of being a misogynist in the name of combatting "political correctness".
alp227
Feb 2014
#69
it's not drunk- it is incapciatated. and there's lots of info out there regarding the definition of
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#75
No, no offense, and I appreciate the sanity of your post. (An oasis in a pretty insane thread.)
Squinch
Feb 2014
#87
This thread is chock full of posts making the thinly veiled argument that boils down to, "lots of
Squinch
Feb 2014
#92
Yes. And when I see people suggesting that plenty of accusations of rape are, effectively,
Squinch
Feb 2014
#95
If they think there is some fine line between sex and rape, you have to be right.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#99
It's like some men fear "accidentally" running afoul of these "very complex" rape laws we have
Recursion
Feb 2014
#116
Indeed. More men should use something like the "four step" rule I mentioned above.
Xithras
Feb 2014
#129
Nope. You got it pretty well. The other point being made is that there is just a tiny difference
Squinch
Feb 2014
#105