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In reply to the discussion: Wall Street Journal thinks that rape is not a crime or that women are criminals for being raped. [View all]tableturner
(1,702 posts)A man and a woman go out on a date. Both get very drunk. They then go to one of their homes, start kissing, then they both participate in petting, then they take their clothes off, then the mutual petting escalates to the point where both perform orally upon the other. Up to this point, is the man guilty of sexual assault because of the mutual oral activity, is the woman guilty of sexual assault because of the mutual oral activity, are both guilty of sexual assault in this circumstance, or are neither guilty of sexual assault?
Then a man inserts his penis into the woman who had just performed orally upon him while he was performing orally upon her. Is that rape by the man? Is the man more responsible than the woman for the fact that they are having intercourse, and if so, why? If the man is guilty, but not the woman, is that because he did the inserting?
If you say that the man in the above situation is guilty of raping the woman because he did the inserting, what if the woman takes the man's penis and inserts it into herself? Is the man guilty of rape, is the woman guilty, are both guilty, or is nobody guilty of rape?
Does the answer to the question center around who physically takes the penis and does the actual inserting? If so, then when the man does the actual inserting, does the fact that a few moments before, the woman was orally performing upon the man absolve the man of his possible guilt? Also, under this scenario, how would it be determined who did the actual inserting?
Also, in a recent thread somebody posited that the man was guilty when both were drunk because the man was the "giver", while the woman was the "receiver". In this person's opinion, the physiological difference (the man has the "projectile", while the woman has the opposite) made the man guilty of rape. Would it be fair for the man to be guilty because he is the one with the "projectile", in other words, is he guilty, while she is not, simply due to the physiological differences?
Please.....I hope for a reasoned discussion that is based on ALL of the circumstances noted above, not just the ones somebody may cherry pick.