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In reply to the discussion: Wall Street Journal thinks that rape is not a crime or that women are criminals for being raped. [View all]joeglow3
(6,228 posts)Now, pretend we are on a spectrum and the (female) date has a constant level of drunkedness. At the far end, is the scenario I laid out. On the opposite end, lets pretend my friend is stone cold sober. We can both agree that if he was sober and she was drunk, she cannot consent and is a victim. Under the scenario that I laid out, we agree my friend was the victim.
At what point on the spectrum does the victim change from my friend (at the point he was passed out) to the female (at the end where he was sober).
What if this happened five minutes before he passed out and was willing. Under your aforementioned logic, since they are both conscious and he is "entering" her, she is by default a victim. If that is not your position, please clarify it.
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