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In reply to the discussion: This is How Citizens United Dies-Feds: Mexican tycoon exploited super PACs to influence US elections [View all]jsr
(7,712 posts)3. Citizens United: U.S. Politics with Chinese Characteristics
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-lynch/citizens-united-us-politi_b_441936.html
Citizens United allows for the very real possibility of the Chinese government's direct influence in our elections through a Chinese corporation's U.S. subsidiary. While no official number exists about the number of Chinese companies with a U.S. subsidiary corporation, Dan Harris, a partner at the international law firm Harris & Moure and editor of the China Law Blog, believes that the number is substantial. "My small firm represents a number of U.S. companies that are wholly-owned by Chinese companies or by Chinese citizens and that convinces me there must be thousands of such companies in the U.S." While certainly not all of these Chinese companies with a U.S. presence are directly owned by the Chinese government, there are likely many more than just Haier, China Telecom and CSCE. And given China's vast currency reserves ($2.4 trillion, the world's largest), the Chinese government certainly has the money to spend on U.S. elections should it choose to do so. Corporations in other countries, particularly oil-rich ones like Saudi Arabia and Russia, also own U.S. subsidiaries.
Citizens United allows for the very real possibility of the Chinese government's direct influence in our elections through a Chinese corporation's U.S. subsidiary. While no official number exists about the number of Chinese companies with a U.S. subsidiary corporation, Dan Harris, a partner at the international law firm Harris & Moure and editor of the China Law Blog, believes that the number is substantial. "My small firm represents a number of U.S. companies that are wholly-owned by Chinese companies or by Chinese citizens and that convinces me there must be thousands of such companies in the U.S." While certainly not all of these Chinese companies with a U.S. presence are directly owned by the Chinese government, there are likely many more than just Haier, China Telecom and CSCE. And given China's vast currency reserves ($2.4 trillion, the world's largest), the Chinese government certainly has the money to spend on U.S. elections should it choose to do so. Corporations in other countries, particularly oil-rich ones like Saudi Arabia and Russia, also own U.S. subsidiaries.
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This is How Citizens United Dies-Feds: Mexican tycoon exploited super PACs to influence US elections [View all]
kpete
Feb 2014
OP
I like your spirit -- Refreshing counterbalance to my "discouraged old fart" tendencies these days
Armstead
Feb 2014
#8
To say nothing of the trend in certain countries for people to come to the US specifically
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#41
I am confident this court would say no to corporate speech where foreign nationals are the source
Vattel
Feb 2014
#12
The relevant court remedy would not be a fine but an order that stops the message
Vattel
Feb 2014
#31
You know, I hate to say it but sometimes you have to use people's irrational fears against
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#6
So what? Why would US based corps. have more of a right to buy election than foreign ones?
Romulox
Feb 2014
#11
That ruling is not consistent with either Citizens or previous Free Speech jurisprudence.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#20
People present in the US have virtually all the rights of citizens. Certainly 1st Amendment rights.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#35
I appreciate the feedback. Wasn't Citizens United about making a movie, though? nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#38
So it seems anyone legally present in the US can spend unlimited money on such activity. nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#81
I would also add that it is trivial for a foreign corporation to form a subsidiary in the US. nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#21
According to this article, it was Alito. This article reflects Roberts' reaction to the issue.
Hassin Bin Sober
Feb 2014
#62
Cons and the tea party type believe it is fine to hide your sources of campaign funding and
Fred Sanders
Feb 2014
#27
We all knew this was going on, it's nice to see the truth rolling out. K & R
Firebrand Gary
Feb 2014
#34
Remember Alito shaking his head and mouthing no when the president brought this up in the sotu
kimbutgar
Feb 2014
#39
Corporations are associations of individuals, therefore have speech rights under the First Amendment
Vox Moi
Feb 2014
#51
Surely the felonious ones could never have dreamed their majority decision opened
indepat
Feb 2014
#66
Aren't they all foreign corporations now, headquartered in the Bahamas or Caymans?
tclambert
Feb 2014
#68